Open World PvP

[van_arn]

By technical issues I assume you mean rebalancing the entire game, regardless of an opt in option, you would still have …

It’s not simply rebalancing. We have separate pvp skills from pve and the game isn’t set up to swap between those sets outside of specific, designated, pvp areas— similar to how swimming only works past a hidden loading screen to another area.

It’s all for nothing because even if they went through the Herculean task of making it possible, this community wouldn’t be able to handle it.

[Kes13a]

It’s not simply rebalancing. We have separate pvp skills from pve and the game isn’t set up to swap between those sets.

It’s all for nothing because even if they went through the Herculean task of making it possible, this community wouldn’t be able to handle it.

I love how its always the fault of the "care bears" not being able to "handle it" as opposed to the "irresponsible few" pvpers that do the griefing, newb targetting etc that everyone, including apparently pvpers, deplore, but always seem to come out of the woodwork when pvp is present. The blame isnt on the non pvp people or even on the apparent majority of those that like pvp. but you can certainly lay the blame on the shoulders of those who like pvp who have ruined its reception for the rest of you. it is because of them that you dont get teh reception to pvp inclusion as "an important part of the game" that you seem to feel it deserves. however, its never really been a part of this particular game.

yes, as people say, if you roll on a pvp world, you get what you get.

SURPRISE... no pvp worlds in FFXIV, wrong game.

[Lauront]

It’s not simply rebalancing. We have separate pvp skills from pve and the game isn’t set up to swap between those sets outside of specific, designated, pvp areas— similar to how swimming only works past a hidden loading screen to another area.

It’s all for nothing because even if they went through the Herculean task of making it possible, this community wouldn’t be able to handle it.

The most they seem able to handle is uwu sugoi catboi twinkle-eyes. Whether it is the story and even allowing for the possibility of character deaths, darker job concepts, content that a certain portion of this community disdains, such as open world PVP apparently, unfortunately the more vocal components of this game's community are very set in their ways and would probably see it turned into a visual novel if they could.

[Kes13a]

The most they seem able to handle is uwu sugoi catboi twinkle-eyes. Whether it is the story and even allowing for the possibility of character deaths, darker job concepts, content that a certain portion of this community disdains, such as open world PVP apparently, unfortunately the more vocal components of this game's community are very set in their ways and would probably see it turned into a visual novel if they could.

ah, the complete miscategorization of the pve community as a whole.

well done.... well done.

[Lauront]

ah, the complete miscategorization of the pve community as a whole.

well done.... well done.

Never said a single word about the PVE community, which wasn't what I had in mind. Just gcbtw.

[Kes13a]

Never said a single word about the PVE community, which wasn't what I had in mind. Just gcbtw.

well then to be precise... which portion of the FFXIV community not in favour of open world pvp did you mean... exactly?

[Theodric]

FFXIV takes the theme park approach as an MMO. It strives to have a little something for everyone, though for some strange reason a vocal portion of the community insist on stamping out anything that they themselves do not wish to see in terms of content even when and where there is a clear niche for it.

I think it's very strange and rather off-putting, personally. Especially when a lot of it is based on rhetoric around other MMO's. I don't think people need to go and play something other than FFXIV to get a specific bit of content that they like.

PvP is implemented in a way that is entirely optional. That wouldn't likely change and - shockingly - anyone who didn't like PvP would therefore not have to partake of it.

I just hope some of the upcoming MMO's end up providing some healthy competition for FFXIV so the developers are forced to do more to make the game stand out.

[ElciaDeiLinus]

That's why you have the forums- nobody is stamping you out from talking about what you want from wpvp, they're just disagreeing with you.

You can keep asking for wpvp as much as you want, some will agree some won't- people will use examples from other places they've had wpvp because that's relevant to a conversation about wpvp. The parts that have gone wrong elsewhere can easily go wrong here too, and there are clearly issues outside that in simply how it will be done because the game isn't designed to have wpvp.

Keep in mind the way wpvp is almost always implemented is in a way that it isn't optional- so that is a fair reason for people to be concerned, especially since some of the people advocating for it here are saying they want to use it to settle disputes and target people they don't like in game.... which they would only be able to do if it wasn't optional.

[SannaR]

There's a reason why the Feast can only use a limited selection of auto translated words and phrases. Because it got to a ridiculous levels of toxicity. You can also find it at times in Frontlines or Rival Wings. Especially if you don't go and do something the one person who is trying to drive the team says in alliance chat that they see as the ONLY thing you should be doing the instant the match starts. That any other strategy is to be ignored.

Would I want open PVP? No, because I doubt the devs who so far have more than once proven they haven't implemented PVP that's satisfying to those who already play it would then go and implement an open world versionof it. It barely gets any updates or changes. I would however not mind the ability to do PVP in more controlled areas. Many who are outright against it most likely have seen or been part of a system or game where there was barely any regulation. Like the really old WoW videos of people getting ganked left and right by a person or a group of people who are the only one's who are having fun. It would have to be an opt in option.

I doubt that they would make servers for this as over the years they have repeatedly chosen not to make or label the servers we already have as rp or raid servers. Not wanting to have anyone feel as though they can't create a character on those servers if they aren't into the few things the community has asked for when it comes to server labels.

[NW3]

Don't punish players that partake or even focus on PVP in FFXIV by reducing PVP rewards. They used to give more gear at the earlier levels, but which each expansion less and less PVP rewards.

Either way, SE must take note of the interest in PVP. It exists. So what will SE do? I hear on Twitch that SE doesn't pay much attention to PVP. That's something I hear often and frankly I wish it weren't so.