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  1. #71
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Honestly, if you ever feel like being cheap just go either as a healer, or as a tank with Martialist, or Aetherweaver up depending on what you have to spare. - just play according to what you have. DPS is a little rougher to obtain damage boosting essences, but as tank/healer I don't see any excuse whatsoever

    My suggestion? If you're doing a few relics, and still need CLL, then spend time between CLL runs farming for clusters to get fragments to turn into essences, to feed into your Dlariada or DR runs. I find farming them between runs I can easily get 50-100 fragments, and that is for the pure essences.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 06-24-2021 at 06:38 AM.

  2. #72
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    Balmung_Griffin's Avatar
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    Balmung Griffin
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    I’ve been entering DRn again with friends for weekly & we certainly had a varied experience ever since Zadnor went live. It’s still largely the same: a dice roll. You’ll either get bunch of players who’s committing to use essences & the run gets roflstomp’d really hard(this does happen -slightly- more frequently now), or little to no essence users & the run went by for 40m’ish/potentially longer.
    I've stopped queueing for DR, too many runs felt I was the only one using essences.
    (I mostly rock Banner + Pure Essence of Duelist, so damage is massive) and to be honest it was a drop in the ocean, not to mention some ridiculous things like Tanks with 0 essence and no Tank Stance.
    Now I only run with premades.
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  3. #73
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    I don't care about notes, duels and titles; so why would I be killing the prerequisite mobs?

    Most people only ever set foot in Bozja because they needed to for their relic. Those people don't get the essences they need by simply participating in Bozja, and they have absolutely no reason to go out of their way to farm clusters. This is all by design.
    Doing skirmishes and CEs in each of the three zones nets you the three kinds of memories you need for the first step, killing mobs nets you the bitter memories for the following step, and Castrum (which you need for loathsome memories) spawns faster if lots of Skirmishes and CEs get done.

    Helping spawn things via mob farming will make your relic building in Bozja go much faster.
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  4. #74
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    Doing skirmishes and CEs in each of the three zones nets you the three kinds of memories you need for the first step, killing mobs nets you the bitter memories for the following step, and Castrum (which you need for loathsome memories) spawns faster if lots of Skirmishes and CEs get done.

    Helping spawn things via mob farming will make your relic building in Bozja go much faster.
    Skirmishes and CE's earn you basically nothing in terms of essences. Also, like I said, Skirmishes and CEs are always running non-stop in SF; I've never had any downtime between skirmishes to sit around killing trash. If anything there was always more of them going on than I could ever reasonably do, so stopping to kill trash would only slow me down.

    Also, let's not ignore the fact that it's MUCH more efficient to do all of the steps before DR outside of Bozja. For relic hunters the most efficient way to do everything is to ignore cluster/fragment farming, and that's entirely by design.
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  5. #75
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    Squires Ailith
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    The problem is the system. RNG on top of more RNG to get the actions you need. Then the actions are consumed upon use. This makes people less likely to use them. They should just had you unlock the actions once, then you can use them whenever. At the very least, let us trade fragments for other fragments(5:1 conversion or something) since the devs want us to have hundreds of lost bubble for some reason.

    For those that haven't seen it. Here is a good site for finding which actions come from fragments and where to get said fragments.
    https://ffxiv.kmiwl.de/bozja/?a=6rhgDlgIdKdWCtzC
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  6. #76
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Maybe the relic quest steps could provide some weaker untradeable consumables, enough for the runs needed for the relic. Tradeable consumables could still be much more powerful. As Goji pointed out, a lot of folks are only in the queues because SE gives them no other alternative but to be in them. They don't care about Bozja. They don't want to spend anymore time there than they have to. SE didn't listen to the feedback after Eureka about not tying something like the relic to their special sauce zone and this is the result. So they should do something during the relic quest line to allow people who only want their relic to not have to face this negativity from others who actually want to do the Bozja content for itself.
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  7. #77
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    GeminiReed's Avatar
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    Alys Isshu
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    Quote Originally Posted by AikenDrum View Post
    isn't pure essence >50% chance from just 1 cluster now? ~30min of solo farming got me enough elders for 2 relics yesterday
    Out of the 20 fragments I bought with clusters I got 6 of the Elder Essences. 20 is a bit low to be statistically relevant but if that ratio holds true for 200 fragments it's more like 30%. My guess it's closer to 25%.
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  8. #78
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    Leif Flakkari
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    Goblin
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    Sage Lv 90
    Having done a lot of DR recently, it's really frustrating when so many people don't bother using even basic essences. Had a rank 25 co-"healer" in DR today who didn't cast a single heal, only glare (and occasionally standing around doing nothing). I wouldn't have minded so much except they weren't even using an essence to increase their dps.

    Simply, if you can't be bothered to use an essence, you're not contributing your full weight and dragging the party down.

    Sure, you may not care and that's fine, but don't be surprised if other people do.
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    Arngrim Hallbjorn
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Honestly, if you ever feel like being cheap just go either as a healer, or as a tank with Martialist, or Aetherweaver up
    Not really, unless you are Main Tank or the designated healer of your party, Tanks and Healers can contribute a lot to speeding up DR. They can deal insane amounts of damage with the proper setup, which can be more grindy/expensive to get than DPS setups (bar Excellence setups)

    Warrior with Deep Irregular + Blood Rage + Inner Release + Slash is among the most hilarious memetic nonsense I've seen.

    WHM with Deep Profane + Seraph Strike + Chainspell + Thin Air + Presence of Mind is just naughty.

    And I'm sure there are other more broken combos that people have figured out.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    When a WoL asks for Echo bonus in forum… it’s actually an Echo chamber

    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    “It’s too much effort to even USE the shopping cart. I’m just gonna ask all the store attendants and clerks to carry everything for me!”
    ”<insert player> isn’t rowing the boat! So I’m not rowing either until they do!”
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