About damage essences in Delubrum/Dalriada

[Goji1639]

If you are actually spawning Skirmishes and CE's instead of sitting in camp waiting for others to do it for you, you end up drowning in Clusters which can be exchanged for the fragments you need.

I swear the Venn diagram of people who "cant" get fragments and the people who complain about slow CE spawn rates is a circle.

Can't speak for the second half of Bozja, but in SF FATES and CEs spawned faster than I could even keep up with. Farming trash for clusters wasn't a thing I even had time to do; it would've been a pointless diversion. So, by the time I was all leveled up and running DR for my relic I had no essences by design, same as everyone else.

So, that's why no one uses essences.

[Mavrias]

Can't speak for the second half of Bozja, but in SF FATES and CEs spawned faster than I could even keep up with. Farming trash for clusters wasn't a thing I even had time to do; it would've been a pointless diversion. So, by the time I was all leveled up and running DR for my relic I had no essences by design, same as everyone else.

So, that's why no one uses essences.

Certain key skirmishes for notes or that lead to CE for duels spawn via killing key IV legion trash mobs in certain locations. People standing in camp shouting about how long its taking for MDK or Super Soldier to pop or the chain that leads to the Sauvatoir duel. If you are killing the prerequisite mobs to spawn those, youll be drowning in clusters.

[KhayleZerker]

I killed 15 mobs to spawn Attack of the Supersoldiers. Finally got the note. I guess I was drowning in that ONE cluster I got. 1/15. I even used lost assassination to speed up the process.

[Mavrias]

I killed 15 mobs to spawn Attack of the Supersoldiers. Finally got the note. I guess I was drowning in that ONE cluster I got. 1/15. I even used lost assassination to speed up the process.

Were you doing it solo alongside another group or were you the only one tagging those mobs? The rank also matters, higher ranked mobs have a higher drop rate. Spawning a skirmish by myself has netted me nearly a cluster per mob.

[CKNovel]

I killed 15 mobs to spawn Attack of the Supersoldiers. Finally got the note. I guess I was drowning in that ONE cluster I got. 1/15. I even used lost assassination to speed up the process.

It takes around 30 seconds to kill the ring of mobs. Pull them all and AoE with lifesteal essence up.
Are you basically saying "I farmed 30 secondes, got 1 cluster and I'm already tired"?

Okay it may take up to 45 seconds but the point remains the same. Get with 7 other people and farm, that's where you drown.

[Goji1639]

Certain key skirmishes for notes or that lead to CE for duels spawn via killing key IV legion trash mobs in certain locations. People standing in camp shouting about how long its taking for MDK or Super Soldier to pop or the chain that leads to the Sauvatoir duel. If you are killing the prerequisite mobs to spawn those, youll be drowning in clusters.

I don't care about notes, duels and titles; so why would I be killing the prerequisite mobs?

Most people only ever set foot in Bozja because they needed to for their relic. Those people don't get the essences they need by simply participating in Bozja, and they have absolutely no reason to go out of their way to farm clusters. This is all by design.

[Mavrias]

I don't care about notes, duels and titles; so why would I be killing the prerequisite mobs?

Most people only ever set foot in Bozja because they needed to for their relic. Those people don't get the essences they need by simply participating in Bozja, and they have absolutely no reason to go out of their way to farm clusters. This is all by design.

Doing skirmishes and CEs in each of the three zones nets you the three kinds of memories you need for the first step, killing mobs nets you the bitter memories for the following step, and Castrum (which you need for loathsome memories) spawns faster if lots of Skirmishes and CEs get done.

Helping spawn things via mob farming will make your relic building in Bozja go much faster.

[Goji1639]

Doing skirmishes and CEs in each of the three zones nets you the three kinds of memories you need for the first step, killing mobs nets you the bitter memories for the following step, and Castrum (which you need for loathsome memories) spawns faster if lots of Skirmishes and CEs get done.

Helping spawn things via mob farming will make your relic building in Bozja go much faster.

Skirmishes and CE's earn you basically nothing in terms of essences. Also, like I said, Skirmishes and CEs are always running non-stop in SF; I've never had any downtime between skirmishes to sit around killing trash. If anything there was always more of them going on than I could ever reasonably do, so stopping to kill trash would only slow me down.

Also, let's not ignore the fact that it's MUCH more efficient to do all of the steps before DR outside of Bozja. For relic hunters the most efficient way to do everything is to ignore cluster/fragment farming, and that's entirely by design.

[Mavrias]

Skirmishes and CE's earn you basically nothing in terms of essences. Also, like I said, Skirmishes and CEs are always running non-stop in SF; I've never had any downtime between skirmishes to sit around killing trash. If anything there was always more of them going on than I could ever reasonably do, so stopping to kill trash would only slow me down.

Also, let's not ignore the fact that it's MUCH more efficient to do all of the steps before DR outside of Bozja. For relic hunters the most efficient way to do everything is to ignore cluster/fragment farming, and that's entirely by design.

Weird how I said, spawning them nets you clusters for essences, not the skimishes themselves (although some CEs and Skirmishes actually do drop fragments). If youre seeing a lot of CEs spawn, someone else is actually doing the work to spawn the skirmishes that lead to them.

Amazingly, the DR step is actually only efficient if you have nothing else to level and joining speed run PFs that get sub 20 minute clears. Otherwise, the alternative to this step, PotD, is actually more efficient.

Lets also not ignore that running DR itself nets you fragments as well.

[Goji1639]

Weird how I said, spawning them nets you clusters for essences, not the skimishes themselves (although some CEs and Skirmishes actually do drop fragments). If youre seeing a lot of CEs spawn, someone else is actually doing the work to spawn the skirmishes that lead to them.

Amazingly, the DR step is actually only efficient if you have nothing else to level and joining speed run PFs that get sub 20 minute clears. Otherwise, the alternative to this step, PotD, is actually more efficient.

Lets also not ignore that running DR itself nets you fragments as well.

Weird how I said I didn't have to spawn them, because SFs standard traffic already spawns them faster than I can run them. The point being there's zero reason to ever stop and farm clusters.

Also, PoTD is only more efficient if you're already farming around floors 150+. Otherwise it's complete RNG that's weighted against you; probably spend hours farming and get nothing.

Also, so what if DR nets you fragments? Fragments aren't essences; they're loot boxes that will most likely give you crap. If you're not farming clusters you probably won't have the essences people expecting you to run, but there's no reason for people doing the relic to EVER waste their time farming clusters.