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  1. #41
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    They all wasted their time and gil farming some of the worst content this game has ever created, so of course they're angry that you didn't have to.

    You get basically no fragments running FATES or CEs, which is pretty much the entirety of what Bozja is. Instead you have to sit outside killing trash for fragments, which you then have to gamble at crap odds to get essences. My entire time in Bozja I got exactly 5 usable essences for my Job.

    So yea, I completely get why no one uses essences. I only essenced for 5 of the 15 DR runs I had to do for my relic, and basically just gave up on the relic after that. No way I could stomach another full round of Bozja leveling, and the final relics looked like crap anyways.
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    Last edited by Goji1639; 06-23-2021 at 10:32 PM.

  2. #42
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    I always use essences but rarely get a group that can clear DR under 40 minutes. The best I've ever got was 30ish minutes. Nothing breathtaking.
    But I know what I can and can't expect from DF.
    (1)

  3. #43
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    Why dont you ask you friends/fc if they have extra that they are willing to part with? Or you can server hop in your data center to see what is the cheapest.
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    Last edited by Axxion; 06-23-2021 at 10:54 PM.
    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  4. #44
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    You get basically no fragments running FATES or CEs, which is pretty much the entirety of what Bozja is. Instead you have to sit outside killing trash for fragments, which you then have to gamble at crap odds to get essences. My entire time in Bozja I got exactly 5 usable essences for my Job.

    So yea, I completely get why no one uses essences.
    This patch, the number of DR runs to complete the Timeworn step of a Relic has been cut down from 15 to 5. At the same time the cost of Pure Essence fragments (the good ones) has been cut from 3 Clusters to 1. This is massive, 20 minutes cluster farming would probably net you enough to finish multiple relics.

    There is absolutely zero excuse now.
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  5. #45
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    Einulfr Nothson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This patch, the number of DR runs to complete the Timeworn step of a Relic has been cut down from 15 to 5. At the same time the cost of Pure Essence fragments (the good ones) has been cut from 3 Clusters to 1. This is massive, 20 minutes cluster farming would probably net you enough to finish multiple relics.

    There is absolutely zero excuse now.
    Oh yay, mindless mob farm. If I wanted to do that I'd just play BDO.
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  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This patch, the number of DR runs to complete the Timeworn step of a Relic has been cut down from 15 to 5. At the same time the cost of Pure Essence fragments (the good ones) has been cut from 3 Clusters to 1. This is massive, 20 minutes cluster farming would probably net you enough to finish multiple relics.

    There is absolutely zero excuse now.
    you know and i know there will be one
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  7. #47
    Player Goji1639's Avatar
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    Father Gascoigne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    This patch, the number of DR runs to complete the Timeworn step of a Relic has been cut down from 15 to 5. At the same time the cost of Pure Essence fragments (the good ones) has been cut from 3 Clusters to 1. This is massive, 20 minutes cluster farming would probably net you enough to finish multiple relics.

    There is absolutely zero excuse now.
    I'm glad SE is at least sort of acknowledging the problem and taking steps to address it, but it's still stupid.

    Just make essences permanent unlocks or make them guaranteed drops from the real content in Bozja. Farming clusters for what amounts to randomized loot boxes is still the kind of crap people are guaranteed to avoid.
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  8. #48
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    Why dont you ask you friends/fc if they have extra that they are willing to part with? Or you can server hop in your data center to see what is the cheapest.
    Or better yet, ask if they want to work together & form a frag farming group together. They can sell for profit in case they don’t need the frag (I certainly don’t at this point!), & they can get the frags easily with the help of the whole group!

    Not gonna lie, their price had been spiking up ever since Zadnor went live due to a lot people traversing into one & moreover are farming for field notes & relics. And yet cluster farming had become so much easier than ever by now that:
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    …There is absolutely zero excuse now.
    But I know—you know—we know, somebody will bound to come up with more creative excuses! Joy!
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  9. #49
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goji1639 View Post
    They all wasted their time and gil farming some of the worst content this game has ever created, so of course they're angry that you didn't have to.

    You get basically no fragments running FATES or CEs, which is pretty much the entirety of what Bozja is. Instead you have to sit outside killing trash for fragments, which you then have to gamble at crap odds to get essences. My entire time in Bozja I got exactly 5 usable essences for my Job.

    So yea, I completely get why no one uses essences. I only essenced for 5 of the 15 DR runs I had to do for my relic, and basically just gave up on the relic after that. No way I could stomach another full round of Bozja leveling, and the final relics looked like crap anyways.
    If you are actually spawning Skirmishes and CE's instead of sitting in camp waiting for others to do it for you, you end up drowning in Clusters which can be exchanged for the fragments you need.

    I swear the Venn diagram of people who "cant" get fragments and the people who complain about slow CE spawn rates is a circle.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Or better yet, ask if they want to work together & form a frag farming group together. They can sell for profit in case they don’t need the frag (I certainly don’t at this point!), & they can get the frags easily with the help of the whole group!

    Not gonna lie, their price had been spiking up ever since Zadnor went live due to a lot people traversing into one & moreover are farming for field notes & relics. And yet cluster farming had become so much easier than ever by now that:


    But I know—you know—we know, somebody will bound to come up with more creative excuses! Joy!

    also true but however its going to be mindless mob farming :P
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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