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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    And you prove that (yet again) you missed the point.
    Alright, can you ELI5 this? What's the point? In clear, simple, no nonsense terms, what's the point?
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Alright, can you ELI5 this? What's the point? In clear, simple, no nonsense terms, what's the point?
    Relocation (as it currently stands now) causes problems, and we're going to see that with the Ishgardian housing not from the initial wave of houses being open, but from the second wave where people relo into Ishgard. That's also going to be the same thing we'll see to a lesser extent with the Oceanic servers opening, as both the second wave of housing from Ishgard's relos and the Oceanic server transfers are going to put a whole bunch of properties up for sale in the other wards - and those properties are going to give relos an advantage whereas the first time buyers are going to get screwed over again like what we saw with the recent re-enabling of the demolish timer.

    Following from all of this, SE should add some mechanic that puts the relos and first time buyers on equal footing, not give an advantage to the relos. IMO if SE can come up with a mechanic (be it a raffle, house auction, or something else) that allows for the house to be assigned fairly and have a window that people can sign up to have a chance at getting the house (whether it's through RNG or whoever horks up the most gil) and the mechanic is done in such a way that it makes a transfer of a house from one party to another extremely unlikely (which would completely halt house flipping), that means we have a realistic chance of getting rid of the infernal timer as there will be a better solution in place.

    The point then, is acknowledging the problem exists, and once it is acknowledged, coming up with a solution so that SE can work with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Relocation (as it currently stands now) causes problems, and we're going to see that with the Ishgardian housing not from the initial wave of houses being open, but from the second wave where people relo into Ishgard. That's also going to be the same thing we'll see to a lesser extent with the Oceanic servers opening, as both the second wave of housing from Ishgard's relos and the Oceanic server transfers are going to put a whole bunch of properties up for sale in the other wards - and those properties are going to give relos an advantage whereas the first time buyers are going to get screwed over again like what we saw with the recent re-enabling of the demolish timer.

    Following from all of this, SE should add some mechanic that puts the relos and first time buyers on equal footing, not give an advantage to the relos. IMO if SE can come up with a mechanic (be it a raffle, house auction, or something else) that allows for the house to be assigned fairly and have a window that people can sign up to have a chance at getting the house (whether it's through RNG or whoever horks up the most gil) and the mechanic is done in such a way that it makes a transfer of a house from one party to another extremely unlikely (which would completely halt house flipping), that means we have a realistic chance of getting rid of the infernal timer as there will be a better solution in place.

    The point then, is acknowledging the problem exists, and once it is acknowledged, coming up with a solution so that SE can work with it.
    Would you, say, happen to agree with putting relos on a timer? a different timer to the regular house one (to avoid relo flipping, which is a big thing and probably where a majority of relocation "snipping" is coming from. They're not snipping, they probably bought it for 200mil to get the person to relinquish.) As it is, the timer exists to prevent house flipping. I don't agree with getting rid of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is