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    Relo mechanics are Cancer

    One of the big problems SE added into housing is how the relo mechanics work... as they have only served to confound the housing issues, and have generally made things worse.

    IMO SE needs to either rethink how these work (like by creating a 15 minute - 1 hour raffle that the people wanting to relo must enter alongside all the people that want to outright buy a plot), or remove the relo mechanic from the game and force people that want to move to release the old house and fight for the new one.

    Either way, the relo housing mechanic needs to go.

    Edit:
    And because we have some posters on the forum that can't figure this out, I'm playing devil's advocate to start a discussion in this post.
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 05-31-2021 at 03:12 AM.

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    Hard pass.
    For one, the idea is absurd and not resolve any present issue.
    No point to alter current house ward framework as it has been function as it supposed to be in an environment where supply is unable to meet demand.
    Your pointless crusade on grandfathered ownership and house relocate doesn't resolve the supply and demand issue.
    It is only worsen the problem and creating unnecessary drama

    You can just stop until we see the impact of following 3 factors in 6.0:

    1. Ishgard housing ward release (more plots)
    2. Island Sanctuary (possible instance with farming to make people happy with apartment able to gardening)
    3. Open of Oceanic datacenters that has potential to further free up plots because people from Oceanic will likely migrate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Hard pass.
    For one, the idea is absurd and not resolve any present issue.
    No point to alter current house ward framework as it has been function as it supposed to be in an environment where supply is unable to meet demand.
    Your pointless crusade on grandfathered ownership and house relocate doesn't resolve the supply and demand issue.
    It is only worsen the problem and creating unnecessary drama

    You can just stop until we see the impact of following 3 factors in 6.0:

    1. Ishgard housing ward release (more plots)
    2. Island Sanctuary (possible instance with farming to make people happy with apartment able to gardening)
    3. Open of Oceanic datacenters that has potential to further free up plots because people from Oceanic will likely migrate
    So why should already having a house give you an absurdly significant advantage over someone that doesn't when it comes to Ishgard housing solely because of the relocation mechanic?

    Why not level the playing field?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    So why should already having a house give you an absurdly significant advantage over someone that doesn't when it comes to Ishgard housing solely because of the relocation mechanic?

    Why not level the playing field?
    How does having a house provide an advantage?
    When Ishgard drops there isn't a timer for the relocators to bypass. Whoever gets there first with money gets the plot.
    Can you explain what advantage I'm missing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    So why should already having a house give you an absurdly significant advantage over someone that doesn't when it comes to Ishgard housing solely because of the relocation mechanic?

    Why not level the playing field?
    Due to your obsession, you may see it is a significant advantage, but that is only your objective of view.
    The resolution/suggestion you come up with is not to resolve the issue but for your own obsession; in another word, you want to see the wolrd burn.
    For those currently owned a house, they already went through entire process of either housing plot release or house reclaim timer, and you, due to your obsession thinks they should went through the pain again?

    Again, nothing need to be done until we see what is the impact of 3 new factors from 6.0, period
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catstab View Post
    Tell yourself you have said whatever you like. But you have most definitely called for relocation's end. And Yoshi P is thinking on your misguided words.
    You've got to be completely delusional to think so clearly hyperbolic is going to be taken seriously....

    Either that or your a racist that thinks Yoshi-P isn't smart enough to tell the difference....

    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Due to your obsession, you may see it is a significant advantage, but that is only your objective of view.
    The resolution/suggestion you come up with is not to resolve the issue but for your own obsession; in another word, you want to see the wolrd burn.
    For those currently owned a house, they already went through entire process of either housing plot release or house reclaim timer, and you, due to your obsession thinks they should went through the pain again?

    Again, nothing need to be done until we see what is the impact of 3 new factors from 6.0, period
    So you're saying the actual solution (which isn't deleting relos btw) of having a house auction or a raffle isn't a valid way to level the playing field?
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    Last edited by Almagnus1; 06-01-2021 at 05:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    So you're saying the actual solution (which isn't deleting relos btw) of having a house auction or a raffle isn't a valid way to level the playing field?
    Yeah, your logic is clearly on the other dimension and very different than people in this universe.
    Which part of "nothing need to be done until we see what will happen after Oceanic server, new ishangard release, and island sanctuary" you do not understand?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Yeah, your logic is clearly on the other dimension and very different than people in this universe.
    Which part of "nothing need to be done until we see what will happen after Oceanic server, new ishangard release, and island sanctuary" you do not understand?
    Why are you advocating for (yet another) wave of people getting screwed over by the housing mechanics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    your a racist that thinks Yoshi-P isn't smart
    Yoshi P commented at fan fest that changes to relocation would be considered thanks to the cries of alarmists on the forums. Your theory is interesting, though. Perhaps you are merely projecting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almagnus1 View Post
    Either way, the relo housing mechanic needs to go.
    It's the timer that needs to go. Re-think the whole system.

    "Camping is so fun that people should each get to do it several times over, instead of once"
    is NOT the answer.
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