Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
Many people say savage is full of toxic people but what they don't realise is normal mode is too. The difference is normal mode has a far lower failure rate and it doesn't require much communication from people. You could be unknowingly playing with someone incredibly toxic but because the content doesn't require too much coordination they may not say a word. So then you have no idea what that person is really like. However in savage good coordination is a requirement, which means people need to communicate. Which of course means those silent toxic players are no longer silent and then you see what they're really like when they have something to say.
Exactly the same argument elitists in WoW use to defend their elitist attitude when it comes to mythic raiding not only confusing the average casual by making them think mythic is some ultra l33t hard content but pushing people away from said content cuz they love to exxagerate its difficulty so they can tell themselves they did something great while they literally just beat a scripted puppet.

Neither WoW mythic, nor savage nor even ultimates are tuned in such a way that require this extremely good coordination and rotation some elitists tout, it is literally just harder heroic which requires more effort than heroic, that's it, the room for error is still decently big, simply smaller than heroic.

I remember mythic raiders like Preach kept saying how they are such nice people and mythic raiders arent toxic elitists, they are just a bunch of normal people having fun and being friendly, nothing elitists there, then he goes around supporting stuff like "you gotta be trolling to not play X meta", "Why would you ever play the non meta spec of your class, it is expected you switch to your class' meta spec" because the truth is they dont see their elitism because they are surrounded by other tryhard elitists who do exactly what they demand aka metaslaves, simming for the best options, unironically changing builds every boss, most mythic guilds dont really tolerate non elitists non metaslaves which is why Preach lives in his own bubble(The funny thing is when the non metaslave is doing better than than the elitist metaslaves in the real encounter, that is always funny to see and ended up shutting up many of my whiners "omg this person doesnt play meta")

Put Preach, the pretend good guy in a group that doesnt play meta specs and secretly open his mic and let's see what """nice comments""" the fun and friendly person says, his videos with fin where he pugs are already full of such elitist comments and insults towards average players who arent metaslaves and dont do what they demand.