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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    You still are bound by DRK being a hybrid weaponskill/spell GCD job.
    BW is still clunky in AoE situations. You cannot meld enough SkS to mitigate that.
    Instead of being upset that it just doesn't give me space for 5 GCDs, I guess I'm just not getting worked up because I see it more as giving me more than enough space for 4.
    Especially since the game never tells me "you should be getting 5," so I've never felt shafted that in AoE vs single target situations parts of my kit work a little differently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    Okay, I can explain. [...]

    The issue[...]
    An excellent post! You describe the issue with this DRK patch outstandingly, and in detail.

    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Instead of being upset that it just doesn't give me space for 5 GCDs, I guess I'm just not getting worked up because I see it more as giving me more than enough space for 4.
    Especially since the game never tells me "you should be getting 5," so I've never felt shafted that in AoE vs single target situations parts of my kit work a little differently.
    That would be playing sloppy (no pun intended) on purpose! Just because you can't be "bothered" playing how it was meant to be, or how it should've been... That can't be a legit argument for defending this awful design flaw.
    The AOE example from OdinelStarrei is proof of that. While on level <64, it is impossible to get 5 GCDs into BW because of the spell recast time. At 64+ - once you get Quietus - you are only able if 1. you have good latency, 2. enough SkS on your weaponskill GCD, 3. saved enough gauge for at least 2 Quietus, or get enough during BW, 4. and execute it in the right order. As OdinelStarrei said, once you are at 100+ ping you can forget about that!

    Even from my personal experience during TEA - a duty which is already prone to lag - in 1 of 5 cases BW doesn't count the 5th GCD even with ~20ms ping, and 2.38s GCD. And trust me: I know when to use BW, so I wouldn't miss the 5th GCD!
    You just play worse because of reasons that are out of your control. That's neither fun, nor exciting, neither rewarding. It's just but punishing. In clonclusion: Unless DRK is supposed to feel punishing, it's definitely bad game design.
    And we know SE love their band-aid-fixes. Which makes you wonder why they haven't fixed BW yet. It would simply a QoL change, like those MNK and NIN (can) enjoy.

    It just grinds my gears that DRK has to experience the late fixes (or in case "never gonna happen" fix) when the job really needs those! In SB DRK had the worst defensive and enmity generation toolkit of all tanks, and SE buffed them at the very end of the expansion. That is way too late, and overdue! Whether DRK is the poster boi of ShB doesn't matter, it seems SE doesn't give a damn about tanks as they favor their dps jobs above all else. It makes me feel... lost and abandoned.

    On the WAR topic: Even tho WAR is my most played tank job, I don't see the need for the potency buff. I would understand something in range of +20 potency per combo which would still be less than 1% buff. Maybe I just do not want to see it, because if this buff was necessary that would mean that SE neglected WAR - or the tank role in general - for 2 whole years! Or they just buff it "because it's Warrior, duh".
    In both cases, I feel like showing them the middlef*nger and tell them to do their f*cking job! Essentially that means, do not favor jobs or roles before others and treat them all equally!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Instead of being upset that it just doesn't give me space for 5 GCDs, I guess I'm just not getting worked up because I see it more as giving me more than enough space for 4.
    Especially since the game never tells me "you should be getting 5," so I've never felt shafted that in AoE vs single target situations parts of my kit work a little differently.
    So, you're settling for less and accepting an inferior return on investment because "well that's just how it works out for me."
    Barring my phrasing at least. But that's what I see.

    It's not me being worked up. Sh**posts i post as copypasta on the balance are me being worked up. Expletive laden essays are me being worked up. Expressing my disappointment and disapproval of how things are being handled in one regard of the game I use as escapism entertainment? Nah. Not enjoying DRK doesn't mean there isn't anything else I cannot enjoy in FF14. But having something you once enjoyed being neglected and mistreated never feels good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    So, you're settling for less and accepting an inferior return on investment because "well that's just how it works out for me."
    Barring my phrasing at least. But that's what I see.
    Sure.
    I'm just here to vibe man.

    Blood weapon is kinda jank in certain circumstances, and they didn't fix this, during a pandemic, months before a new expac, one they're facing withering internal pressure to really deliver on.
    Bummer, but I have other things to be disappointed and frustrated with.


    Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
    But having something you once enjoyed being neglected and mistreated never feels good.
    Sure, it's rough. But at this point what am I gonna do, complain and demand they change it? Nah, I'd rather they focus on End Walker.
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