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  1. #41
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    Sqwall Lionheart
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    Diabolos
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Bravely_Default View Post
    Raiding with DRK PLD and WAR in extreme and savage content over the course of the expac I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt the warrior is the EASIEST to self sustain with. yes, paladin is very capable of saving it's own skin, but it's an uphill battle with losing their combos to sustain MP, warrior can do this utilizing it's kit quite fluidly. DRK might have decent defensive cooldowns but is completely missing the massive burst heals that warrior and paladin are capable of doing. Warrior with these buffs is actually closing in quite fast to paladin in the damage department at the moment, especially with the fight design with diamond weapon; where warrior's uptime falls in line with the boss phase transitions leading to it actually outdpsing paladin at the top levels. Add in that warrior has had the easiest kit to utilize and you have a very high performance tank that can hold it's own when a situation goes poorly.
    Warrior has gained my admiration over the course of 5.0 expac. Not to much at 5.0 launch, but I really switched to warrior from 5.3. Warrior imo really is the best tank, and I play them all, Paladin is a very close second but I found it boring this expansion. Each tank has it's strengths, but warrior is just SO COMFY to play. It's strong, high burst damage, easy rotation, a sustain that healers love (when I heal warriors I'm way more comfortable).

    See what 6.0 offers to the tanks and see what tank I decide to run with. Wait and see
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  2. #42
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    Iiiiiiiiiiit's Meeeee
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    Wait... what are we supposed to be surprised by?
    Potency tweaks mid expac to buff the tank with the lowest DPS (war)?
    I feel like I'm missing something here.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    Wait... what are we supposed to be surprised by?
    Potency tweaks mid expac to buff the tank with the lowest DPS (war)?
    I feel like I'm missing something here.
    It's the comparison vs. DRK getting no love the entire expac while adding insult to injury of getting a full redesign. DRK mains may be fairly miffed
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    It's the comparison vs. DRK getting no love the entire expac while adding insult to injury of getting a full redesign. DRK mains may be fairly miffed
    The love we're missing is potency buffs?
    People getting knickers in a twist because WAR got some and DRK didn't?

    I dunno man, I know it's popular to hate on DRK or whatever but as a DRK main I'm happy.
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  5. #45
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    The enmity buff doesn't make much sense but maybe it was a leveling issue. At any rate, I'm not one to turn down a bone. Thanks SE
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  6. #46
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    Raylen Lothaire
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    The love we're missing is potency buffs?
    People getting knickers in a twist because WAR got some and DRK didn't?

    I dunno man, I know it's popular to hate on DRK or whatever but as a DRK main I'm happy.
    I wasn't gonna say anything, but I didn't think it was a huge biggie either lol
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  7. #47
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    Odinel Starrei
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    The love we're missing is potency buffs?
    People getting knickers in a twist because WAR got some and DRK didn't?

    I dunno man, I know it's popular to hate on DRK or whatever but as a DRK main I'm happy.

    Okay, I can explain. It's actually really simple. I don't care that WAR got potency buffs, that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme. Also, everyone who isn't insane knew there was never going to be a significant rework after 5.3 with literally nothing being mentioned in live letters or patch notes about DRK, good or bad. DPS does not matter.

    The issue that is that anyone, ANYONE, who plays DRK at a somewhat serious level knows Blood Weapon is a completely garbage skill that we have complained about for almost two years. Every other job with a short duration buff has had it's tolerance level increaseed (Delirium/IR/Req), or has had it's requisite requirements moved to on hit, depreciating stacks (Bunshin/New Riddle of Earth).

    All anyone has to do, is use AoE combos and realize 5 hits in are impossible at the 2.5 spell GCD, or play with more than 100 ping and see how inconsistent it is. Inconsistent, arbitrary, and entirely within the realms to be fixed, because other jobs have had the exact same thing fixed. It's a QoL fix long overdue. This doesn't even include just DRK either, who asked DRG potency buffs, and NOT Disembowel being extended in AoE?

    Putting essentially a bug fix into your "Job Adjustment" patch notes when we have not had a single meaningful change to make the experience less clunky the entire expansion is annoying. I never even realized LS was SUPPOSED to give aggro, because I assumed it, as a pet, just wouldn't generate any, like every other pet, it's not like they can be targeted or meaningfully impact the way I use my opener. To say it another way, it never impacted my gameplay experience a single time because of the insane aggro modifier on tank stances. BW is annoying enough that it impacts my gameplay experience multiple times every pull by existing in it's trash state.
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    Last edited by OdinelStarrei; 04-16-2021 at 07:45 AM.

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    Emilia Summers
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Sadly, the main designer for DRK mitsutoshi gondai is working on project FF16 so DRK will probably not get any love come 6.0 either. Anyhow this buff will probably only lasts the duration till 6.0 where again all jobs will be re-balanced again for better or worse...like early 5.0 rdm can't even get enough mp back...
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinelStarrei View Post
    Okay, I can explain. It's actually really simple. I don't care that [...]
    So you're upset they didn't change blood weapon?
    K
    Is that really what we're all getting riled up by?
    I dunno man, I just followed some melding guide off the balance to get my SkS right and never had a problem with that.
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    Last edited by ItMe; 04-16-2021 at 03:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    It's the comparison vs. DRK getting no love the entire expac while adding insult to injury of getting a full redesign. DRK mains may be fairly miffed
    that plus Bunshin and Perfect Balance being changed to have charges to spend, whereas blood weapon is still "hope you have good latency."

    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    So you're upset they didn't change blood weapon?
    K
    Is that really what we're all getting riled up by?
    I dunno man, I just followed some melding guide off the balance to get my SkS right and never had a problem with that.
    good for you. You still are bound by DRK being a hybrid weaponskill/spell GCD job.
    BW is still clunky in AoE situations. You cannot meld enough SkS to mitigate that.
    Even ignoring that "but that's not raids, so who cares?" because how many people are uber casual, log in to do roulettes, and not much else? They just get shafted?

    It's a much requested, twice paralleled QoL change that's been asked for since 5.0's release (BW is jank please fix), and fully realized with NIN's redesign (Bunshin does it why cant we?), and again wound-salted with MNK's rework (Perfect Balance too now functions like how we want BW to, please??).

    At this point it's just tradition. DRK Gets nothing meaningful, then throughout the expac their like dead last to get anything close to a good adjustment, then the next expansion comes and it's almost a whole new job with the changes to it. Taking bets on what 6.0 Delirium will do if it's even still in the job kit.
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    Last edited by WhyAmIHere; 04-16-2021 at 03:19 AM.

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