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  1. #1
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Im doing my job, the DPS decide they can't wait the extra second to let me get a hit on the enemy to I can gain aggro.
    They decided on their own to run ahead and pull everything else. Thats not being bad at my role on purpose.



    Your opinion is valid and noted, but If Im Tank, let me Tank. Dont tank for me then call me bad when you wont let me do my job and act like your in a rush because you have a date waiting or something XD.




    Darn Straight 8)
    If Im the Tank, let me tank. If you wanna tank, Ill let you tank.
    I WILL be petty about it because why am I the Tank, if a DPS is gonna do it for me?
    Do you know refusing to do your job and letting people die for it is reportable since it's griefing?

    Someone running ahead isn't preventing you from doing your actual job, that is grabbing aggro, or doesn't mean that they want to tank, it just means that they're faster than you. You're a bad tank and a bad team player with that attitude, no two ways around it.
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    Mirn Armaya
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Do you know refusing to do your job and letting people die for it is reportable since it's griefing?
    The DPS should be held accountable for any pulls they do intentionally ahead of the tank. Why should they get away with running ahead and bring back groups from across multiple rooms when the current mobs aren't done yet?

    Did you talk to the tank about it first to suggest that they can pick up speed? Did the healer gave its okay on that as well?
    If they did not try anything in that direction and just run off to pick up additional groups, then it's their fault if chaos ensures if that tank doesn't do anything to manage the situation.

    You have the tools and options there: Communicate, kick the tank, or leave the dungeon yourself.

    ... hm, now I have to ask support that intentionally pulling ahead is considered griefing as well and a bannable offense.
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    Crowe Valtyr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    The DPS should be held accountable for any pulls they do intentionally ahead of the tank. Why should they get away with running ahead and bring back groups from across multiple rooms when the current mobs aren't done yet?

    Did you talk to the tank about it first to suggest that they can pick up speed? Did the healer gave its okay on that as well?
    If they did not try anything in that direction and just run off to pick up additional groups, then it's their fault if chaos ensures if that tank doesn't do anything to manage the situation.

    You have the tools and options there: Communicate, kick the tank, or leave the dungeon yourself.

    ... hm, now I have to ask support that intentionally pulling ahead is considered griefing as well and a bannable offense.
    Or you could stop acting like a child and just do your job to get out of the dungeon faster. Then you'll never have to see those DPS ever again.
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    Expecting basic job mechanics is toxic now?
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    Mavrias's Avatar
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    Jyn Willowsong
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    The DPS should be held accountable for any pulls they do intentionally ahead of the tank. Why should they get away with running ahead and bring back groups from across multiple rooms when the current mobs aren't done yet?

    Did you talk to the tank about it first to suggest that they can pick up speed? Did the healer gave its okay on that as well?
    If they did not try anything in that direction and just run off to pick up additional groups, then it's their fault if chaos ensures if that tank doesn't do anything to manage the situation.

    You have the tools and options there: Communicate, kick the tank, or leave the dungeon yourself.

    ... hm, now I have to ask support that intentionally pulling ahead is considered griefing as well and a bannable offense.
    you realize that the tank "refusing to manage the situation" is that tank maliciously stopping their aoe rotation, right? if a dps or healer brings extra mobs to you , the only way you wont pick them up is if you turn off your tank stance or switch to single target.
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    ZedxKayn's Avatar
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    Blue Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrius View Post
    The DPS should be held accountable for any pulls they do intentionally ahead of the tank. Why should they get away with running ahead and bring back groups from across multiple rooms when the current mobs aren't done yet?

    Did you talk to the tank about it first to suggest that they can pick up speed? Did the healer gave its okay on that as well?
    If they did not try anything in that direction and just run off to pick up additional groups, then it's their fault if chaos ensures if that tank doesn't do anything to manage the situation.

    You have the tools and options there: Communicate, kick the tank, or leave the dungeon yourself.

    ... hm, now I have to ask support that intentionally pulling ahead is considered griefing as well and a bannable offense.
    The sooner damage starts going out, the faster mobs will die, the faster the dungeon will be.

    It's very rare when a DPS pulls so much mob that it turns a reasonable pull into one that is too big. These tanks usually soil their diapers over DPS/healers who just keep walking expecting a baby pull to be a normal one, or DPS/healers who are god forbid, running a couple meter ahead of them and therefore are in range to attack sooner.
    And yet it's still the tank's job to grab aggro of the mobs.
    Yeah, I'm gonna either try to kick the tank or leave, but not without reporting him as well if that happens to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    Yeah, I'm gonna either try to kick the tank or leave, but not without reporting him as well if that happens to me.
    I agree with you and the people here it's toxic behavior from the tank to let a DPS die because they pulled mobs. At the same time, it's not a reportable offense if the tank keeps his mouth shut while doing it. How would the GM discern a tank letting someone die from spite from tanks letting someone die from incompetency if there are no chat logs to show he was being malicious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ftail View Post
    I agree with you and the people here it's toxic behavior from the tank to let a DPS die because they pulled mobs. At the same time, it's not a reportable offense if the tank keeps his mouth shut while doing it. How would the GM discern a tank letting someone die from spite from tanks letting someone die from incompetency if there are no chat logs to show he was being malicious.
    If GMs have access to the battle log, they could possibly see the tank stopping his use of AOE, dropping his stance, and such.
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