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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Though yeah if someone does commit a murder and they serve their time and are released I do not think that should be public knowledge or follow them. Cause the reality is as people we stigmatize or marginalize people for past actions. They did their time and now want to try and do better, but sadly given how people view it is hard to move forward when you are constantly reminded about your past. I do not feel that is how we should view learning from ones mistake.
    Because someone who can murder, will possibly do it again. You don't want someone who possibly doesn't value human life working with people who are vulnerable. You shouldn't allow someone chances when they historically prove they squander them.
    Yes someone who serves time deserves the chance to rehabilitate and redeem, however "clearing the record" of offenses is harmful to others around them. Forgiveness is fine, blindness is foolish.
    The punishment for grievous infractions is the history and record following you. That's part of the deal. Intelligent judgement considers past actions, severity of infraction and length between offenses.

    Thinking that blanket forgiveness is a good idea is all very spiritual and storybook nice.. but it's unrealistic. People repeat mistakes, have habits, and malfunctions. This is how humans work. Believing as you do is dangerous to yourself and others and lacks wisdom.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    However, it's not law we're dealing with. Heck we could draw an alternative comparison and look at employment. Most places will clear any disciplinary actions taken against an employee after 6 months. It's really more a case of peace of mind, because a minor infraction could be all that does it to hang you over from 2 strikes over to 3 and you are indefinitely on that "what if I make a mistake once more?" over your head. Because technically speaking a simple "oh f***" breaks their profanity clause, somebody reports you and the GM decides to put a strike and that's it. You've learned from all your mistakes 7 years ago and it comes back to bite you.

    When looking at it from a legal point of view, yeah, "can't do the time? Don't do the crime" fits. But I can't see argument for such an attitude existing in a video game service or for a community. It's basically going "our customer learned their lesson, years later they make one mistake, yes, lets force them to stop doing business with us even though their record has been great for years".

    Having the strike on there temporarily is good to help curb misbehavior, if after a year they've not screwed up then it can be assumed they are making t he effort to stay within the game's rules.

    If the rule breaking is more serious, then I can understand if it sticks. But if it's minor, it does seem harsh. If it's lots of minor ones in a short space of time, then yeah, that's indicative of somebody causing trouble. If it's minor ones stretched across a long period of time, this is people more likely making errors or mistakes
    Please read my earlier replies and note that I SUPPORT minor infraction forgiveness. the person I'm replying to thinks that ALL infractions should be equal and fall off the record. They support the idea that someone who say harasses other players, cheats, or uses hateful speech should have their offenses fall off the same as someone who swears in a chat once. Their policy is "if one thing is forgivable they all have to be".
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 02-25-2021 at 10:47 PM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?