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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Forgiveness is generally for the person who has been wronged, not for the one who metes out punishment. You can "forgive" someone who's harassed you all you like, but you're for some reason confusing the punishment with some sort of personal catharsis. The punishment for doing horrible things is not mitigated by the people who were wronged feeling forgiveness. If you murder someone, in some states where I live you get killed right back. Forgive it all you like but you are dead and that cannot be taken back.

    Your view on this is incredibly naive. A police officer working on this principle would be just as likely to waive your parking ticket as you stabbing someone. "oh well, you only did it once, go ahead and take this warning". Severity of punishments being relative to the infractions is how many MANY systems of law work.

    You confuse this falling off the record as some sort of after process that should be set on every single judgement when it's very clear that if someone does something that's clearly more harmful to everyone elses gaming experience they should be punished accordingly and that punishment should include never having that infraction falling off their record.

    Even if we speak of merely personal affronts , constantly forgiving someone for say lying to you or cheating ON you just as easily as say forgiving someone for stepping on your toe accidentally is just .. well.. asking to be taken advantage of.
    Then don't consider it "forgiveness" but the price of the action. The punishment as it were.


    I'm always aghast at what people can possibly defend here.. but you've very much awestruck me with how nonsensical someones stances can be when they don't have to answer for anything they say.
    I know the severity of a punishment is relative to the infraction, and I agree with that and never stated otherwise. Do not think I ever said that something should go without punishment. Though if implied as much I am sorry and was not my intent. My stance is once the punishment is done it should not follow a person. How is that not holding them accountable? They got in trouble had an action taken against their account. Once the punishment is served their past mistakes should not follow them.

    End of the day my first comment in this thread was more so how people pick and choose what actions are considered tolerable mistakes and which are not is something I do not agree with. I we should be able to hold the same standard across the board. If we are agree people make mistakes and can change for one thing same should be viewed for others. By no means does that mean I think people should not be held accountable for what they say or do or get a get out of jail free card for their first infraction. I on the contrary I feel a first infraction should not be a warning but a temp suspension, though once the suspension is over it should not stay on their account forever.

    Though yeah if someone does commit a murder and they serve their time and are released I do not think that should be public knowledge or follow them. Cause the reality is as people we stigmatize or marginalize people for past actions. They did their time and now want to try and do better, but sadly given how people view it is hard to move forward when you are constantly reminded about your past. I do not feel that is how we should view learning from ones mistake.
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    Last edited by Awha; 02-25-2021 at 10:20 PM.