Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
Yeah, a person should face punishment but to say that someone who has committed murder is not possible seems. If someone does change I do not think actions of the past after they did their punishment should follow a person. Just like in IRL once a person serves their time I do not think they should be forced to state they were ever locked up, or their sentences should be viewable through a background check. The government can have a record but as everyday people I do not think we should really know. They did their time being as they are saw fit to be free they should be viewed as everyone else not as a person with a negative label for the rest of their life.

As I mentioned I live by a simple view everything can be forgiven and made amends for. Life is too short to hold grudges and carry anger around. I also say this as someone who has been victim of some horrendous acts with lengthy legal battles as a child but that is just me. I get for many it is hard to let go. Do not get me wrong I still remember the horrible things done to me, but outside that it is water under the bridge.

In short I do not base my own view of forgiveness around the type of action or damage dealt so to speak.
Forgiveness is generally for the person who has been wronged, not for the one who metes out punishment. You can "forgive" someone who's harassed you all you like, but you're for some reason confusing the punishment with some sort of personal catharsis. The punishment for doing horrible things is not mitigated by the people who were wronged feeling forgiveness. If you murder someone, in some states where I live you get killed right back. Forgive it all you like but you are dead and that cannot be taken back.

Your view on this is incredibly naive. A police officer working on this principle would be just as likely to waive your parking ticket as you stabbing someone. "oh well, you only did it once, go ahead and take this warning". Severity of punishments being relative to the infractions is how many MANY systems of law work.

You confuse this falling off the record as some sort of after process that should be set on every single judgement when it's very clear that if someone does something that's clearly more harmful to everyone elses gaming experience they should be punished accordingly and that punishment should include never having that infraction falling off their record.

Even if we speak of merely personal affronts , constantly forgiving someone for say lying to you or cheating ON you just as easily as say forgiving someone for stepping on your toe accidentally is just .. well.. asking to be taken advantage of.
Then don't consider it "forgiveness" but the price of the action. The punishment as it were.


I'm always aghast at what people can possibly defend here.. but you've very much awestruck me with how nonsensical someones stances can be when they don't have to answer for anything they say.