Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
Forgiveness is generally for the person who has been wronged, not for the one who metes out punishment. You can "forgive" someone who's harassed you all you like, but you're for some reason confusing the punishment with some sort of personal catharsis. The punishment for doing horrible things is not mitigated by the people who were wronged feeling forgiveness. If you murder someone, in some states where I live you get killed right back. Forgive it all you like but you are dead and that cannot be taken back.

Your view on this is incredibly naive. A police officer working on this principle would be just as likely to waive your parking ticket as you stabbing someone. "oh well, you only did it once, go ahead and take this warning". Severity of punishments being relative to the infractions is how many MANY systems of law work.

You confuse this falling off the record as some sort of after process that should be set on every single judgement when it's very clear that if someone does something that's clearly more harmful to everyone elses gaming experience they should be punished accordingly and that punishment should include never having that infraction falling off their record.

Even if we speak of merely personal affronts , constantly forgiving someone for say lying to you or cheating ON you just as easily as say forgiving someone for stepping on your toe accidentally is just .. well.. asking to be taken advantage of.
Then don't consider it "forgiveness" but the price of the action. The punishment as it were.


I'm always aghast at what people can possibly defend here.. but you've very much awestruck me with how nonsensical someones stances can be when they don't have to answer for anything they say.
However, it's not law we're dealing with. Heck we could draw an alternative comparison and look at employment. Most places will clear any disciplinary actions taken against an employee after 6 months. It's really more a case of peace of mind, because a minor infraction could be all that does it to hang you over from 2 strikes over to 3 and you are indefinitely on that "what if I make a mistake once more?" over your head. Because technically speaking a simple "oh f***" breaks their profanity clause, somebody reports you and the GM decides to put a strike and that's it. You've learned from all your mistakes 7 years ago and it comes back to bite you.

When looking at it from a legal point of view, yeah, "can't do the time? Don't do the crime" fits. But I can't see argument for such an attitude existing in a video game service or for a community. It's basically going "our customer learned their lesson, years later they make one mistake, yes, lets force them to stop doing business with us even though their record has been great for years".

Having the strike on there temporarily is good to help curb misbehavior, if after a year they've not screwed up then it can be assumed they are making t he effort to stay within the game's rules.

If the rule breaking is more serious, then I can understand if it sticks. But if it's minor, it does seem harsh. If it's lots of minor ones in a short space of time, then yeah, that's indicative of somebody causing trouble. If it's minor ones stretched across a long period of time, this is people more likely making errors or mistakes