Level 80s who single target groups of mobs

[Mahoukenshi]

For Sam's first is 26
MNK's is 26
SMN's is 35
NIN's is 38.
DRG's is 40
...

WHM and AST are the last jobs to get their first(and only) AOE which is at 45 lol.

Among the melee SAM perhaps suffers the most because they only have like 3 skills to use, where as DRG and NIN have acquired many by 35, which kind of offsets the lack of AOE.

The suggestion at hand was specifically about getting the player to use their AOE ability, so I was focusing on that part. But yeah, the level difference is quite varied between the jobs, especially in regards to their full AoE combo.

@topic: I can't look into the heads of others and what I've run was almost always without a horror story (if at all I was the root of evil in it XD), but even outside of an efficient playstyle, I find it weird why people would not use their full skills available. I mean, I'm by no means a competent player: I run most MSQ and flying-required dungeons once and haven't unlocked any optional content, unless I get them in roulette (until I "burned-out" of it) or am motivated to do Trusts; i. e. my ability to do mechanics may be like russian roulette. But for me it's common sense, for lack of better words, to use my tools as good as I can, even if I never intend to memorize some opening/burst rotation.

[technole]

The real question is why you tolerate people using single-target abilities on packs in a level 80 dungeon. Kick those people. They’re not new.

Yep, silent vote dismissal is the easiest solution. Most people know what's up if there is the one dead weight.

[thephantom007]

I mean coming from someone who is new to tanking in general I dont always wall to wall pull, but I never single pull I usually pull around 3 groups at once. But I do understand the faustration of not AOE down targets when you have pulled even just 3 mobs at once, eventually cooldowns run out, then theres a period where youve used all your cool downs and waiting for one to come off. Kinda need DPS to kill the groups as quickly as they can xD

[Wrestlefire769]

You know, if you have THAT MUCH of a problem with it, you could always try to report the player for Obstruction and demand the devs address the concept of the legality of substandard play -- which of course could lead to the legalization of parsers and the like.

[van_arn]

You know, if you have THAT MUCH of a problem with it, you could always try to report the player for Obstruction and demand the devs address the concept of the legality of substandard play -- which of course could lead to the legalization of parsers and the like.

Or just kick them. It's an 80 dungeon; they should know by now.

[Kuroka]

Or just kick them. It's an 80 dungeon; they should know by now.

But on level 80 they still are newwww!!!!

Its something ill never get, sure not everyone learns as fast, but even SB is a point were, even with only MSQ youre no longer new...

[Wrestlefire769]

Or just kick them. It's an 80 dungeon; they should know by now.

And both sides just wasted their time.

Look, why don't we just admit that there's a certain type of person in this game which would like the "bad player" to be removed from this game -- preferrably by forcing them out of all content and having them unsub.

[technole]

And both sides just wasted their time.

Look, why don't we just admit that there's a certain type of person in this game which would like the "bad player" to be removed from this game -- preferrably by forcing them out of all content and having them unsub.

Incorrect. Replacing DPS is easiest in any duty.

[Wrestlefire769]

Incorrect. Replacing DPS is easiest in any duty.

You still had them waste your time and you theirs.

[Absurdity]

You still had them waste your time and you theirs.

Which they are already doing, because if they can't even aoe they probably also can't play the rest of their job at the most basic level.