Level 80s who single target groups of mobs

[Driavna]

I did actually miss remember the exact wording:

- ・Expressions that compel a playing style

Meaning even asking nicely could be consider "Nuisance behaviour" (means speech or behaviour that hurts others or obstructs game play, but which is not classified as harassment. Even if it was not the intention, a penalty may be imposed if the end result was that another person was hurt or obstructed).

But then we can find this:

・Other obstruction of play
This means all other behaviour that deliberately obstructs another person's game play by some means.

I argue that refusing to AoE when everyone else is on board can apply to "Other obstruction of play"

As I said before is a big mess and a lot of situations are about "who report" or "who report first". Even two of the typical ones: healers not wanting to DPS and tank ignore what the rest of the group want (mass pulling or single pulling), can be argue from both sides and everyone involved could theoretical be sanctioned.


Here is the link if anyone want to give it a full read (if you haven't done it already you should): https://support.na.square-enix.com/f...la=1&kid=68216

[Gallus]

There are some DPS out there that Alisaie legit looks like a pink percentile player. I had a level 80 dungeon yesterday where the DRG was only attacking one target in each pull. To add salt to the injury, they were screwing up their single target rotation completely because I was generating more aggro in DRG's only target spamming quick nocks and rains of death. It was so depressing it was almost worth recording.

[Vickii]

I do agree you should 100 percent use aoes.

But it is a bit concerning that someone told me off for not spreadshotting a bunch of trash that I’d almost solo killed, because I instead used air anchor to get 20 guage so I could throw the queen out early on the upcoming boss.

Unless you know the ins and outs of the class and why someone might not be aoeing I don’t think you should really call them out. Trash is a fantastic way to build gauges/CDs, and it’s funny when someone gets all elitist because you do it, when they’re half as good as you.

[Yeol]

There is no duty in-game that forces people to use AoE in order to clear it.

MSQ and/or Job quests should have a duty where you need to kill a group of mobs ASAP. These mobs have very low HP & attack, you can kill them easily by using your AoE combo 2 or 3 times. If you don't kill the mobs in 20s or less, they enrage and the duty fails.

The development team needs to start introducing duties that help the player base improve their gameplay.

[Mahoukenshi]

There is no duty in-game that forces people to use AoE in order to clear it.

MSQ and/or Job quests should have a duty where you need to kill a group of mobs ASAP. These mobs have very low HP & attack, you can kill them easily by using your AoE combo 2 or 3 times. If you don't kill the mobs in 20s or less, they enrage and the duty fails.

The development team needs to start introducing duties that help the player base improve their gameplay.

Seeing how the jobs get their first spammable AoE at different levels, the best option would imo be during job quests. Otherwise, you'd need to wait for quest level 40+ until DRG and WHM gets their first spammable AoE attack, which may or may not be too "late" for some avid learners (or frustrated vets ).

[Yeol]

Seeing how the jobs get their first spammable AoE at different levels, the best option would imo be during job quests. Otherwise, you'd need to wait for quest level 40+ until DRG and WHM gets their first spammable AoE attack, which may or may not be too "late" for some avid learners (or frustrated vets ).

They are most likely not going to go back and change their old quests, but hoping for the future MSQ and job quests.

[Quintessa]

Seeing how the jobs get their first spammable AoE at different levels, the best option would imo be during job quests. Otherwise, you'd need to wait for quest level 40+ until DRG and WHM gets their first spammable AoE attack, which may or may not be too "late" for some avid learners (or frustrated vets ).

For Sam's first is 26
MNK's is 26
SMN's is 35
NIN's is 38.
DRG's is 40
...

WHM and AST are the last jobs to get their first(and only) AOE which is at 45 lol.

Among the melee SAM perhaps suffers the most because they only have like 3 skills to use, where as DRG and NIN have acquired many by 35, which kind of offsets the lack of AOE.

[Mahoukenshi]

For Sam's first is 26
MNK's is 26
SMN's is 35
NIN's is 38.
DRG's is 40
...

WHM and AST are the last jobs to get their first(and only) AOE which is at 45 lol.

Among the melee SAM perhaps suffers the most because they only have like 3 skills to use, where as DRG and NIN have acquired many by 35, which kind of offsets the lack of AOE.

The suggestion at hand was specifically about getting the player to use their AOE ability, so I was focusing on that part. But yeah, the level difference is quite varied between the jobs, especially in regards to their full AoE combo.

@topic: I can't look into the heads of others and what I've run was almost always without a horror story (if at all I was the root of evil in it XD), but even outside of an efficient playstyle, I find it weird why people would not use their full skills available. I mean, I'm by no means a competent player: I run most MSQ and flying-required dungeons once and haven't unlocked any optional content, unless I get them in roulette (until I "burned-out" of it) or am motivated to do Trusts; i. e. my ability to do mechanics may be like russian roulette. But for me it's common sense, for lack of better words, to use my tools as good as I can, even if I never intend to memorize some opening/burst rotation.

[Vickii]

Well, in that case, wouldn't it be the one off ability? Air Anchor/Hot Shot has its own separate CD. Yeah, if you're getting called out for doing that, then the person calling you out doesn't get what's up.

I'd really feel meh about someone if they just sat there doing their Slug Shot roto while there's 10 dudes on the tank, not just normal class gameplay.

Mhmm, one off ability and someone said ‘wtf aoe MCH’ or something to that extent lol.

Not using AOE is a valid concern overall though. There’s just times where it may be viable to single target.