Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[EtherRose]

Hopefully female Hrothgars won't be female Roe's in disguise. I'd prefer them to be slim and a little smaller than the males. Pantera from bless online would be a very good example.

[Shadowshinra]

I'm open to both styles of them, either more like the males with a full feline face, or the more Bless style human-esque design, however i'd say I'd rather prefer the human style design if it meant less issues with head gear and such. But with all the cutbacks and stuff Covid is causing to pretty much every business I'm doubtful we'll see them till 7.0 at the earliest unfortunately. That being said they could also just surprise us and throw one in Fran style in the Bozja content..

[zeylos]

I'm open to both styles of them, either more like the males with a full feline face, or the more Bless style human-esque design, however i'd say I'd rather prefer the human style design if it meant less issues with head gear and such. But with all the cutbacks and stuff Covid is causing to pretty much every business I'm doubtful we'll see them till 7.0 at the earliest unfortunately. That being said they could also just surprise us and throw one in Fran style in the Bozja content..

Imma be honest and say I'd really appreciate it that if we werent getting the missing genders at 6.0 (which at this point they know either or not we have them considering how far theyre into development) they told us beforehand so we could just put the issue to rest. I guess it makes sense for them to reveal them as a surprise drop or not talk about it so it wont spark as much controversy if they cant add them

[Nestama]

I'm open to both styles of them, either more like the males with a full feline face, or the more Bless style human-esque design, however i'd say I'd rather prefer the human style design if it meant less issues with head gear and such. But with all the cutbacks and stuff Covid is causing to pretty much every business I'm doubtful we'll see them till 7.0 at the earliest unfortunately. That being said they could also just surprise us and throw one in Fran style in the Bozja content..

I'd honestly be really disappointed in SE if they made female Hrothgars more human in appearance (especially as we already have Miqo'te). Either SE go the route of making them as bestial as the males (head gear issues and all), or not bother at all.
I'm not a fan of "males can be anything, but females must always be mostly human."

[reivaxe]

Hopefully female Hrothgars won't be female Roe's in disguise. I'd prefer them to be slim and a little smaller than the males. Pantera from bless online would be a very good example.

It's what this post is pointing at if you need a visual comparison ..vv

https://pasteboard.co/JJe4ZEq.png
some notes on hrothgals v femroe
slimmer, shorter (even more so since the mural seems to cut off the femroe at the ankles, but hrothgar has her feet), with prominent cat ears compared to the males
with this scientific analysis i can therefore conclude that they will be taller, bald miqote.

TBH they may very well have the flatter human style faces if the art is any indication of the face.
I'm personally fine with either style of face.

I'm open to both styles of them, either more like the males with a full feline face, or the more Bless style human-esque design, however i'd say I'd rather prefer the human style design if it meant less issues with head gear and such. But with all the cutbacks and stuff Covid is causing to pretty much every business I'm doubtful we'll see them till 7.0 at the earliest unfortunately. That being said they could also just surprise us and throw one in Fran style in the Bozja content..

That's the type of catch 22 I've been wondering about.
Seems clear to me that people are not happy with the limits of Viera and Hrothgar and it also seems clear that it's not exactly easy, fast or a top priority to make NEW Viera hair and Hrothgar heads as is. So ... would people be ok with them making both the missing genders have heads designed to be more compatible with shared Hair and head gear (aka, learn from this backlash)? It's something I rarely get a straight answer for from people who want to play the gender. At the end of the day they make new player models for the people who will play them, tis why no amount of memeing Draggo's sex differences means anything. People who like and play which ever Draggo gender are happy enough with them.

The closest there is to a female hrothgar - based on how the males look - would be a female khajiit, with maybe one of the faces being more humanoid (aka conventionally waifu)

I've been avoiding using western games/ MMOs as a comparison for the simple fact that it's hard breaking down the the principles of animation and character design to tell people something as simple as "exaggeration is a thing" let alone the difference in different aesthetics and art styles.
Many western games like ESO or EQ2 try to go for a gritty, realistic European fantasy style of yesteryear with lil to zero effort in trying to look cute/ glamorous/ sexy in aesthetics and art style. That's the opposite of how FF14 and other Eastern games work, everything in this game is designed to look cute/ glamorous/ sexy/ appealing on some level.

To put it simple ...

This..


has the same energy as this.

Neither are as bland as ESO cats cause they're made to look sexy/ attractive. So IMO furry art is what we should be using as ref as everything in this game tries to strike on "cute/ glamorous/ pretty/ handsome/ sexy" and this is even more true for the females of any race. Females are not given the range of faces to pick from as males are in this game, they are given 4 types of attractive faces with different flairs.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I think a kajit with a higlander build is likely what we will get

Khajiit with FemRoe Body plz :3

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I'm open to both styles of them, either more like the males with a full feline face, or the more Bless style human-esque design, however i'd say I'd rather prefer the human style design if it meant less issues with head gear and such. But with all the cutbacks and stuff Covid is causing to pretty much every business I'm doubtful we'll see them till 7.0 at the earliest unfortunately. That being said they could also just surprise us and throw one in Fran style in the Bozja content..

The issue with the Human face is, then they would literally just be Miqote 2.0. And I know most people would hate that then be ok with it.
Having the ability to wear head gear by Sacrificing a unique head to give the beast race an authentic beastly appearance would also be seen as lazy. Even if you factor in making making the body rig and the animations for emotes and such....you could literally say "Why didnt we get this sooner" if this is all it is?

[Vahlnir]

The closest there is to a female hrothgar - based on how the males look - would be a female khajiit, with maybe one of the faces being more humanoid (aka conventionally waifu)

Judging from certain...(spoilers)

paintings in Bozja this might indeed be the case. I'm guessing a bit more feminine though.

[zlygork]

If they look similar to the female Ronso of old, I'm very much interested in becoming one! +1

[reivaxe]

The issue with the Human face is, then they would literally just be Miqote 2.0. And I know most people would hate that then be ok with it.
Having the ability to wear head gear by Sacrificing a unique head to give the beast race an authentic beastly appearance would also be seen as lazy. Even if you factor in making making the body rig and the animations for emotes and such....you could literally say "Why didnt we get this sooner" if this is all it is?

Not that I'm advocating for anything but it's non-sense to think "most people" would hate Miqote 2.0 when you can sum up the last 2 newest poplar af females added to the game as "____ version Miqote". Many would jump at the chance for a "different Miqote".
There's a lot of room between Miqote and heads that were built to have shatty limits. For example, I'm 100% sure just having "reg hair" would do a lot towards making Hrothgar more hat friendly as the shape of their face or their head isn't what stops them from wearing hats (The shape of their head and face may very well stop the devs from giving them shared hair as their ears come out the front of their head but they could have had reg racial hair). The males were built to have "lion manes" be a part of their body in CC instead of having reg hair so it's something they either turn on or off, there's no hat hair model cause they don't have hair. Giving the dudes reg hair instead of manes wouldn't make them Miqote 2 and likely would allow hats but still leave them out in the cold for open face helms. Much Like if Viera didn't have 4 options for ears it would be far easier to come up with a solution to their hat's problem, a number of problems with these 2 races as-is comes from arbitrary design decisions that don't add as much as they take away.