Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[reivaxe]

I think more people would prefer the miqo'te 2.0 or whatever. I don't see "most people" wanting khajiit with roe bodies. Like sorry guys, but that just wouldn't be very popular.

Now me? I wouldn't want miqo'te 2.0 regardless if it would be popular or not. I definitely wouldn't want them to have a roe body either though. Then again, for me, this is just casual conversation. I wouldn't play a femhroth either way.

I feel you, I'm on the other side kinda ... as in I WANT to play them and I want them to be enjoyed by others. I don't personally want "Miqote 2.0" but there's a ton of ways to make them flat faced and I wouldn't personally care or blame the devs if they just did that as it has it's fanbase. W/e they do, I'm down so long as they're appealing to fans of female furries as much as the dudes are appealing to the Bara-furry crowd.

The interesting thing I noticed about body type talk is that the whole "make em Femroe/ masculine!" just comes across as virtue signaling. Like, given femroe numbers slapping a Khajiit animal head on them would just result in them having even a smaller population than Femroe who themselves are the least played option in game. I'm a part of a number of FB FF14 groups and after that looong fight with the Hrothgar dude a few pages back in this thread I saw some woman in one say they should add Female Hrothgar and have them be "just as buff as the males!". I asked her "Why do you want this? Is this a thing people are into or want to play?" and she just plainly said "No, I just find the idea of seeing a male Hrothgar with boobs and a dress to be hilarious!".

It was more proof to me of something I'd been suspecting, that a number of people saying this wouldn't bother playing them or don't seem to care about those who would normally be down for playing an anthro female. Got me asking myself "Who ARE the Hrothgar for?" and it all comes back to the furry crowd as the dudes are very much made to be appeal to fans of Bara-furries. That's why I started posted all this furry art, it's like a strange elephant in the room that no one wants to address. That everything about this game says that the females "would also be attractive".

The spectrum of what styles furrys are into is wide and long, but they're often times not hulking beefed out females like femroe.



People assuming they would just be Femroe with animal heads "Cause the dudes use the Roebro rig" (Not understanding that all females other than Lala use the same rig) is IMO why they get faar less chatter and very lil fan-art even though furries are a huge an active crowd online. That's not a very exciting idea to most people who aren't willing to play Femroe already.

[EtherRose]

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Kittydee's Lion artwork is great. *cough* >.>

On a side note i really hope they do make female Hrothgar around those lines. But a voice in the back of my head is also saying "Watch them do half and half. Semi-fur. Miqo'te 2.0 but with some fur and a little more feral looking".

[SturmChurro]

I feel you, I'm on the other side kinda ... as in I WANT to play them..

Yeah, I can guarantee that people largely wouldn't want to play a hrothgar with a roe body. Doesn't matter if they had a human or more animal face. The body would completely ruin it. Like when I've seen tall, or bigger females in games, the body people actually want for them is more like what I was talking about earlier: similar to Archeage's Warborn. Something still a bit feminine, with curves. That's why if they decided to make them a bit taller they would be infinitely more popular, and definitely look better, being closer to highlander rather than femroe, in my opinion.

One thing I really hope they would get right for female hrothgar/male viera, is animations though. Male hrothgar being hunched over is one of the biggest complaints I see for them.

Also, I'd guess those Bless cats were probably really popular, though they also have the unique feet and everything going on. All we'd get is the head/face, it's too bad.

[AnAverageAspie]

I just remembered that if the Devs will stick onto the design principle of Hrothgar as "race with unique heads, limited headgear", via evidence said from Devs that want to try adding more unique heads, patterns for the current Hrothgar. It could be just as plausible for them to make unique heads were we can have a flatter face and a more animal/bestial face to "please both". The only issue is that a flatter face would mean less complex textures (paint colors on skin with no fur detail/hatching ala BNA) and a more animal face means females should have the same skin/fur textures as the males. The sample of KittyDee's lion if applied would still be miles ahead of what we can express ourselves with(or most eastern mmos have). Jjust make them taller and buffer around the collarbone and thighs. Outside of that, we all know Femroe is a flop just like the Roebros but its a matter of EXECUTION...or realizing your game don't work in adding fun things :/

At least they thought ahead in giving Khajit rounder heads to allow headgear. A blend of Form & Function, as they say. FF would be entirely different if they only just took from Dragon Quest. The interpretation of East/West styles mingled together is fascinating.

One thing I really hope they would get right for female hrothgar/male viera, is animations though. Male hrothgar being hunched over is one of the biggest complaints I see for them.

Also, I'd guess those Bless cats were probably really popular, though they also have the unique feet and everything going on. All we'd get is the head/face, it's too bad.

I definitely think no hunch will happen. While I'm indifferent to the hunch while understanding the anatomy idea behind it (Himbos that constantly travel through multiple forms of terrain at different elevation), I do enjoy its "ready stance" nature when pulling out an axe or gun. If female's are going to be smaller than it would just be odd. However, maybe give an idle stance where they can hunch/slouch?

Less Bless the better and no amount of popularity for a race can save that mess. Lupus gives me 2001 Planet of the Apes vibes but with less face detail than the makeup on 1998 CATS.