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  1. #41
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I'm going to be the oddball who asks for a revival dance for DNC. A 3 to 5 minute cooldown, but lets you revive any party member. If we're going to be lowest on the damage department due to being support, we may as well go all in.
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  2. #42
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm going to be the oddball who asks for a revival dance for DNC. A 3 to 5 minute cooldown, but lets you revive any party member. If we're going to be lowest on the damage department due to being support, we may as well go all in.
    Would be interesting is it was tied to the Partner mechanic and had something like this:

    • Encore: Grants Encore status to self and Partner. If Partner is unconscious, grants Raise status to partner instead.
    • Encore status: If HP reaches 0, grants Raise status.
    or something to that effect.
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  3. #43
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm going to be the oddball who asks for a revival dance for DNC. A 3 to 5 minute cooldown, but lets you revive any party member. If we're going to be lowest on the damage department due to being support, we may as well go all in.
    Dancer just isn't mandatory enough I suppose.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Dancer just isn't mandatory enough I suppose.
    TBF they would still have to compete with SNM and RDM on this front and their rezzes are more free being GCDs.

    The combat buffs and AoEs could be addressed by giving those qualities to BRD and giving MCH back Grenado Shot and have a Heated counterpart (while also giving BRD back its equivalent)
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  5. #45
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    TBF they would still have to compete with SNM and RDM on this front and their rezzes are more free being GCDs.
    Not to mention that if the rez has a long cooldown, you'd still want SMN and RDM because they can rez multiple times in a row.
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  6. #46
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    I'm going to be the oddball who asks for a revival dance for DNC. A 3 to 5 minute cooldown, but lets you revive any party member. If we're going to be lowest on the damage department due to being support, we may as well go all in.
    What is this obsession with giving jobs reses that never in their job history even be able too. Unless this is the same dude who keeps asking for reses in MCH and BLM of all things..

    Anyways no, Ressing is a expensive MP skill not a Ogcd because “why not” is Dancer this one note that no one can thing of anything else to give it but a res
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  7. #47
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    What is this obsession with giving jobs reses that never in their job history even be able too. Unless this is the same dude who keeps asking for reses in MCH and BLM of all things..

    Anyways no, Ressing is a expensive MP skill not a Ogcd because “why not” is Dancer this one note that no one can thing of anything else to give it but a res
    Rez makes no sense for MCH and BLM. And yes, Dancer is incredibly one note, it's the easiest DPS in the game to do well with.
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  8. #48
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Ravana
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    Viper Lv 100
    no need for DNC to have Raise ,
    anyway but for DNC I'd really like Improvisation to be like Mantra+Brotherhood these "transition" skills are mediocre,
    be nice if Dancer got some sort of way to Garuntee Fan dance 1+2 aswell .
    inb4 another trait to add another charge to gap closer
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  9. #49
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    no need for DNC to have Raise ,
    anyway but for DNC I'd really like Improvisation to be like Mantra+Brotherhood these "transition" skills are mediocre,
    be nice if Dancer got some sort of way to Garuntee Fan dance 1+2 aswell .
    inb4 another trait to add another charge to gap closer
    My best bet would be Flourish to receive a trait that would make the flourished abilities a guaranteed feather.

    Alternatively, an Improvisation revamp to grant feathers (in a shorter channel time) instead of Esprit.

    I enjoy the fact that to do AoE, a DNC has to be in melee range... But what I don't like is the tiny moment that you have to go there during Flourish to have a CHANCE on your flourished aoe abilities to grant a feather. I think they should go to either extremes... remove completely the necessity of being in melee range for your single target rotation or add MORE melee elements to it, like RDM that bounces back and forth.
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  10. #50
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    For one I’d want flourish or perhaps a minimized version of it to be present somewhere earlier in DNC Kit. Perhaps it only procs Reverse cascade and Reverse Windmill. Then a trait that expands it as early DNC instances are dreadfully boring.

    Esprit needs to be reworked abit, having Saber Dance tied to it is very off handed and Esprit being tied to Standard Finish feels tacked on. The gauge feels like a lesser Chakra. With no real guarantee to increase it and having it being reliant on your partner is abit much imo. Or just a way to guarantee esprit without Improvisation. Seems like a wasted mechanic tied on the last 4 levels then again these aren’t deal breakers DNC has very nice platform to be a better job. But I just can’t think of much to add to it
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