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    Hiraeth Petrichor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    Melee using MP? Out of ALL the melee jobs MNK? I’m not too comfortable with that as MNK biggest issue is it’s clunky design removing GL and adding on MP management creates a whole other can of worms that might just be worse especially tying Fists stances behind them and limiting MNKs material by its loose symbolism. This is FFXIV I don’t know about you but I don’t really care if they are THIS faithful to the jobs inspiration.
    It's actually a call back to the way Fists used to work originally, believe it or not! They all used to simply drain MP in the exact same way Foe Requiem did - trade MP for a buff.

    That said, it wouldn't be true MP management. Think of it like FoF having the MP bar ticking down instead of having a traditional buff timer ticking down (except it only ticks down when you use a GCD action). FoW would be used directly after and would refill the MP bar (I accidentally deleted that part) through normal gameplay in lieu of having a recast timer for the FoF buff - it would fill slightly faster with Tornado Kick usage when it's learned in lieu of having a traditional recast timer reduction trait. It would sort of echo PLD's MP management in a world where they only had 1 spell that used MP. More symbolic than anything and requiring about as much thought as MCH's Queen usage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartaDemireux View Post
    It's actually a call back to the way Fists used to work originally, believe it or not! They all used to simply drain MP in the exact same way Foe Requiem did - trade MP for a buff.

    That said, it wouldn't be true MP management. Think of it like FoF having the MP bar ticking down instead of having a traditional buff timer ticking down (except it only ticks down when you use a GCD action). FoW would be used directly after and would refill the MP bar (I accidentally deleted that part) through normal gameplay in lieu of having a recast timer for the FoF buff - it would fill slightly faster with Tornado Kick usage when it's learned in lieu of having a traditional recast timer reduction trait. It would sort of echo PLD's MP management in a world where they only had 1 spell that used MP. More symbolic than anything and requiring about as much thought as MCH's Queen usage.
    If you want MNK to have a resource gauge to spend, then Chakra should be made more robust. It has no need to use MP and that's exactly why it stopped using it. MNK has so little identity as it is, let's not blur it even more by making it a magic job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    If you want MNK to have a resource gauge to spend, then Chakra should be made more robust. It has no need to use MP and that's exactly why it stopped using it. MNK has so little identity as it is, let's not blur it even more by making it a magic job.
    Again it's just a visual aid in lieu of standard, boring buff timers and recast timers - it has the exact same function but is displayed differently. It wouldn't be using MP as a resource like BLM or DRK. I'm not suggesting making MNK a magic job. Every single job uses aether in the lore - and theoretically should have their MP gauges utilized because of this. Why even give them MP bars at all if not to make some use of them?
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