FF14 is not made for hardcore players.

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I never said it is and will never perceive it as such. You and everyone else are free to expect anything you want and fancy. The elitism starts when people decide what people should play or not and whether people "should" accept advice or not. In the same way you are free to expect anything you want, so are others free to accept your advice or not. I\\'ve said it many times, there are as many personalities as people who play the game and expecting everyone to adhere to some random floor you have decided is "appropriate", that is elitism. People play for different reasons and with different attitudes. Accept that and your frustration when someone rejects your advice will go down significantly.

My own play revolves around getting better while playing the game and my belief is that I can do that without external help unless I have specific questions about a job, in which case I will go and ask my guildmates. Learning process is different for everyone and takes a different time to move from basics to semi-advanced stuff. I will make mistakes, I will mess, I\\'ll apologise, I\\'ll accept advice if someone offers it politely and at the appropriate time. But that\\'s me. I don\\'t expect the same from everyone I meet at the DF because if I do that it\\'s an exercise in futility and the only option I\\'d have, would be to come here and complain about random people I don\\'t know anything about. So I take things stoically, I choose to persevere, on one occasion I left the group, but really the other people aren\\'t an issue unless I choose to make one out of them.

Nobody really cares about the dungeon performance to be frank. It’s Alliance and NM Raids where ppl frankly want others to not waste their time since it’s primarily q’d through the df.

It’s really not asking for much to be at least able to do the core of your rotation, dodge mechanics consistently, pull bosses in correct spot, shield raid-wides, and use your self sustains....that’s literally the bare minimum. How many ppl generally perform at that level??? I’d say maybe, JUST maybe 50%. That means half of the players don’t really care about the other half’s effort or time.

Now offering advice 99% of the time in these scenarios(unless someone is new) is generally meme’d on and other passive aggressive shenanigans afterwards. How respectful is that?!?!?

People are all their for the same goal. I don’t see why they aren’t at all motivated to put in the same work. Inb4 but they can have issues and outside problems holding them back. Well then I say to you; Why aren’t they in a place to q for optional content that requires ppl work together and put in the same amount of effort since they’re offered the same rewards at the end?

Advice isn’t forbidden and neither is casual/elitist players. Choosing your content based on your abilities over your wants should come before even attempting said content. Otherwise it’s all for selfish reasons.