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  1. #441
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Thanks, I can get a little self conscious sometimes that my vitriol might get aimed at the wrong person and I do not want to do that. lol. I'm generally a very polite and reasonable person but I can get kinda grrr at people who come off as elitist. The same issue I have with this QTE is the reason I don't generally raid. I'm just not coordinated enough to do it well.
    No worries, I knew you felt the same way as me about this QTE. I also know my limitations. That's why I don't raid either. I used to raid in WoW for a while, but I haven't really raided in years. I've done some of the alliance raids in here and it does take me some time to memorise all the mechanics. But I mostly don't have the energy to raid.

    Same here, I've been trying to defend my stance in this entire thread and just people continuing to tell us to "get gud" or "get a controller" or "try harder" is extremely frustrating, which is why I seem emotional in some of my posts.
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  2. #442
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    Legit I love QTE's but this one is meh at best and I personally find it strange this is a mechanic one would fight to keep.

    Though I also do not understand why people want the MSQ of a causal mmo to have a difficulty barrier. I do want a third ultimate fight and harder content all around but QTE's and the MSQ are not the best way to go about that imo.
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  3. #443
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    LOL, I'm actually sorta the same way. I can't learn from guides, I have to die to a mech a half dozen times to learn it and some [Looking at you here, Mist Dragon, bane of my sb existence >>] I still struggle with.

    Another edit because I just now saw this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Legit I love QTE's but this one is meh at best and I personally find it strange this is a mechanic one would fight to keep.

    Though I also do not understand why people want the MSQ of a causal mmo to have a difficulty barrier. I do want a third ultimate fight and harder content all around but QTE's and the MSQ are not the best way to go about that imo.
    I don't mind raiders having harder content. I'm all about having more exes, savage, and ultimates. I just want them to keep that really hard content to those and not gate off story content.
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    Last edited by redheadturk; 08-27-2020 at 12:04 AM.

  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    I don't mind raiders having harder content. I'm all about having more exes, savage, and ultimates. I just want them to keep that really hard content to those and not gate off story content.
    Raids dont need QTEs because it's not about theatrics. It's about execution of the song and dance. Remove kill all, remove this gate you advocate against.

    Now if Wolidibus required Codex Heart tier mechanics or Kefka's wonky AOEs, then we'd have a real accessibility issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  5. #445
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Raids dont need QTEs because it's not about theatrics. It's about execution of the song and dance. Remove kill all, remove this gate you advocate against.

    Now if Wolidibus required Codex Heart tier mechanics or Kefka's wonky AOEs, then we'd have a real accessibility issue.
    I said I wouldn't do it, yet here I am. So our struggles aren't real to you? Well, thank you very much. This is an accessibility issue. You might not like it, but it definitely is.
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  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Controller View Post
    A controller isn't going to get you banned.
    Ok. But even if you don't get a ban... Next, please read my entire message.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrasweettea View Post
    As for the topic, as someone with a motor skill deficiency, I used a controller and passed on the first time with no pain and no exhaustion. I am sure I could have done it like the other QTEs of rolling another body part across the keyboard. I mainly play with a controller since my motor skills for thumb usage isn't as deficient as normal keyboard use. Just typing normally on a keyboard bothers me more than that QTE ever did.
    This is good for you and I am glad you managed to solve the problem. But, as we see, this method is not suitable for everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Playing video games is very much a basic thing for life if you do it all the time. And I'm offering suggestions here. It's a single solution for the myriad of problems people are displaying as the end of their entire world.

    This entire thread has been dedicated to a single trial. One instance of mash or fail. Tell me how suggesting buying a controller over all the misery that this trial has brought up is disrespectful, will get you banned when *checks notes* the tactical controller exists and not worth some investment because of all the investment put in this thread.
    And again, you judge only by your own life. Exactly. "If you do it all the time." And if not? Yes, imagine, not all people are ready to devote all their time to the game. It's not about that the controller is a bad proposition. Maybe not. But not a universal solution. Because you do not know what kind of disability the player has. Therefore, it`s unethical to insist on such a solution, comparing game software (which is not provided by the creators of the game) with salt and, in fact, counting other people's money.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    You have a keyboard. You have more buttons by default than someone on controller. It's a fact you don't need to keep the meter at 100% This is an ancient technique but also an option, have a friend or someone do it for you. Not play the fight, but 8 seconds of contact with another human to pass the phase and the following cutscene gives enough time to pass the keyboard over. Provided you live with anyone. There's accessibility, and then there's "let's get rid of a concept for 50/5000 people."

    The bus has to keep moving, a new one will come later. That's just the way public service works.

    And when you respond indirectly it makes it hard to notice your posts. I'm not reading every single post, therefore I've very likely skipped over you several times.
    What if the player lives alone? For example. Do you suggest that I come to my friend in another city every time he goes through this trial? LOL.
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  7. #447
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Raids dont need QTEs because it's not about theatrics. It's about execution of the song and dance. Remove kill all, remove this gate you advocate against.

    Now if Wolidibus required Codex Heart tier mechanics or Kefka's wonky AOEs, then we'd have a real accessibility issue.
    When a mech causes a player *pain*, yes, it is an issue. and yes, removing the kill all is what we've been saying all along.

    What is with me thinking of more things to say after I have already hit post? lol. But just so you know, I have *cleared* Kefka. The wonky aoes didn't bother me because after dying to them a few times I figured out "oh, do the opposite of what he says" This is a legit physical issue
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    Last edited by redheadturk; 08-27-2020 at 01:12 AM.

  8. #448
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamhas View Post
    What if the player lives alone? For example. Do you suggest that I come to my friend in another city every time he goes through this trial? LOL.
    It's almost as though I said " Provided you live with anyone." Read please, don't skim and react as you have just asked of me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    I would be more than happy if me failing the QTE wouldn't wipe the group. You people who keep defending this QTE are so incredibly heartless and rude, you have no sympathy no empathy. I hope you never have to deal with what I'm going through.
    The QTE wouldn't wipe the group is a good and simple solution. I supported your report by writing SE. It would be good if they heard us.
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  10. #450
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamhas View Post
    The QTE wouldn't wipe the group is a good and simple solution. I supported your report by writing SE. It would be good if they heard us.
    I do hope they hear us. Then this won't have been for nothing.
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