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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    This is not comparable to a bus!!

    FFXIV is a game with a community. The point of a community is to help people who can't keep up, who are in some way disabled. Because that's what a community is all about. You see it everywhere in rl. Adjustments are made to accommodate people who have problems. Deaf people, blind people, people in wheelchairs. This is no different!!
    I'm going to guess you've never tanked, because this was a mechanic in Susano. How'd you pass that one? Or did you jump potion and therefore, it was skipped. Also that's not the point of communities. That's your idealism talking. Some, but far from all.

    Those adjustments? They're still fitting a majority mold. I could be blind-deaf and unable to read braille. The solution? Learn braille. Not have someone cater further to me while claiming it's for the benefit to everyone else.

    The real solution here is to not have it fail everyone. Not further break off a piece of the game for you.

    Big edit: lol wait didn't Hades have this too?

    How did anyone get past Hades but not be able to do this?
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    Last edited by Gula; 08-26-2020 at 11:01 PM.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Excuse me? I have been playing since ARR was released. No, I don't tank. It's nervewracking for me. But I heal and I dps. I do have a tank at 80, but I mostly leveled it without having to do any trials for exaxtly that reason. And no, I know how to play my classes, thank you very much. You are being incredibly rude here.

    And excuse me, but in real social communities the community does help those who are disabled. My employer has adjusted things for me. Just because you apparently live in a sucky community doesn't mean the rest of the world does. Accessibility is a real actual thing. Square Enix cares about it. They have hired an entire team for it this year.

    I would be more than happy if me failing the QTE wouldn't wipe the group. You people who keep defending this QTE are so incredibly heartless and rude, you have no sympathy no empathy. I hope you never have to deal with what I'm going through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    Excuse me? I have been playing since ARR was released. No, I don't tank. It's nervewracking for me. But I heal and I dps. I do have a tank at 80, but I mostly leveled it without having to do any trials for exaxtly that reason. And no, I know how to play my classes, thank you very much. You are being incredibly rude here.

    And excuse me, but in real social communities the community does help those who are disabled. My employer has adjusted things for me. Just because you apparently live in a sucky community doesn't mean the rest of the world does. Accessibility is a real actual thing. Square Enix cares about it. They have hired an entire team for it this year.

    I would be more than happy if me failing the QTE wouldn't wipe the group. You people who keep defending this QTE are so incredibly heartless and rude, you have no sympathy no empathy. I hope you never have to deal with what I'm going through.
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    Indirect responses again, sure I'll fish through the thread in the event I'm not looking closely for a reply.

    Anyway.

    You passed Shinryu, Hades, and dealt with tight DPS checks when they actually mattered. I'm not seeing anything here but emotional responses and (golly) even more insults instead of cutting right to the point for something that doesn't gut the game further. It's a simple as not. failing. everyone.

    Let's say you die in other trials with QTE's, ok you get rezzed. Nooo biggie. You cannot uphold the responsibility given to you here, I get that. So, let's just take that responsibility away. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Indirect responses again, sure I'll fish through the thread in the event I'm not looking closely for a reply.

    Anyway.

    You passed Shinryu, Hades, and dealt with tight DPS checks when they actually mattered. I'm not seeing anything here but emotional responses and (golly) even more insults instead of cutting right to the point for something that doesn't gut the game further. It's a simple as not. failing. everyone.

    Let's say you die in other trials with QTE's, ok you get rezzed. Nooo biggie. You cannot uphold the responsibility given to you here, I get that. So, let's just take that responsibility away. Problem solved.
    Except in this case you *can not recover* the fight by raising the person who failed the QTE. How many times do we have to tell you naysayers that the issue most of us have with the QTE is that it's a *wipe mechanic* that some of us cannot clear without pain?

    Edit to add: And some of us cannot clear at *all*. Players should not be gated out of story content because a mechanic *hurts* them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Except in this case you *can not recover* the fight by raising the person who failed the QTE. How many times do we have to tell you naysayers that the issue most of us have with the QTE is that it's a *wipe mechanic* that some of us cannot clear without pain?

    Edit to add: And some of us cannot clear at *all*. Players should not be gated out of story content because a mechanic *hurts* them.
    And that's the point of not failing everyone. You're not gated if you're dead. You're just out of commission until the rez-bot can get to you. Struggle QTE's stay, you can still play.

    yay
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Indirect responses again, sure I'll fish through the thread in the event I'm not looking closely for a reply.

    Anyway.

    You passed Shinryu, Hades, and dealt with tight DPS checks when they actually mattered. I'm not seeing anything here but emotional responses and (golly) even more insults instead of cutting right to the point for something that doesn't gut the game further. It's a simple as not. failing. everyone.

    Let's say you die in other trials with QTE's, ok you get rezzed. Nooo biggie. You cannot uphold the responsibility given to you here, I get that. So, let's just take that responsibility away. Problem solved.
    I'm done responding to you. I've put you on my ignore list. You are refusing to get my point at all. Yes, I'm upset and emotional. That you can't imagine why I would be upset when people are constantly attacking me because I happen to be vocal about this particular issue, when I have to constantly defend myself from people like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lhunuial View Post
    I would be more than happy if me failing the QTE wouldn't wipe the group. You people who keep defending this QTE are so incredibly heartless and rude, you have no sympathy no empathy. I hope you never have to deal with what I'm going through.
    The QTE wouldn't wipe the group is a good and simple solution. I supported your report by writing SE. It would be good if they heard us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamhas View Post
    The QTE wouldn't wipe the group is a good and simple solution. I supported your report by writing SE. It would be good if they heard us.
    I do hope they hear us. Then this won't have been for nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post

    Big edit: lol wait didn't Hades have this too?

    How did anyone get past Hades but not be able to do this?
    Hades' QTE wasn't as hard and it didn't wipe the whole party if you failed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Hades' QTE wasn't as hard and it didn't wipe the whole party if you failed it.
    Exactly. This!!!
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