No more QTE please.

[redheadturk]

Indirect responses again, sure I'll fish through the thread in the event I'm not looking closely for a reply.

Anyway.

You passed Shinryu, Hades, and dealt with tight DPS checks when they actually mattered. I'm not seeing anything here but emotional responses and (golly) even more insults instead of cutting right to the point for something that doesn't gut the game further. It's a simple as not. failing. everyone.

Let's say you die in other trials with QTE's, ok you get rezzed. Nooo biggie. You cannot uphold the responsibility given to you here, I get that. So, let's just take that responsibility away. Problem solved.

Except in this case you *can not recover* the fight by raising the person who failed the QTE. How many times do we have to tell you naysayers that the issue most of us have with the QTE is that it's a *wipe mechanic* that some of us cannot clear without pain?

Edit to add: And some of us cannot clear at *all*. Players should not be gated out of story content because a mechanic *hurts* them.

[Bright-Flower]

I do kind of hope they'll go away if they're not going to do anything new with it.

The Susano sword blocking thing specifically I like because it's a really cool moment for tanks. Feels good.

But the whole 'everyone spam button to survive' thing has gotten kinda stale IMO.

[Shelkiis]

Except in this case you *can not recover* the fight by raising the person who failed the QTE. How many times do we have to tell you naysayers that the issue most of us have with the QTE is that it\\\\'s a *wipe mechanic* that some of us cannot clear without pain?

Edit to add: And some of us cannot clear at *all*. Players should not be gated out of story content because a mechanic *hurts* them.

Exactly right!

[Lhunuial]

Indirect responses again, sure I'll fish through the thread in the event I'm not looking closely for a reply.

Anyway.

You passed Shinryu, Hades, and dealt with tight DPS checks when they actually mattered. I'm not seeing anything here but emotional responses and (golly) even more insults instead of cutting right to the point for something that doesn't gut the game further. It's a simple as not. failing. everyone.

Let's say you die in other trials with QTE's, ok you get rezzed. Nooo biggie. You cannot uphold the responsibility given to you here, I get that. So, let's just take that responsibility away. Problem solved.

I'm done responding to you. I've put you on my ignore list. You are refusing to get my point at all. Yes, I'm upset and emotional. That you can't imagine why I would be upset when people are constantly attacking me because I happen to be vocal about this particular issue, when I have to constantly defend myself from people like you.

[Shelkiis]

I'm going to guess you've never tanked, because this was a mechanic in Susano. How'd you pass that one? Or did you jump potion and therefore, it was skipped. Also that's not the point of communities. That's your idealism talking. Some, but far from all.

Those adjustments? They're still fitting a majority mold. I could be blind-deaf and unable to read braille. The solution? Learn braille. Not have someone cater further to me while claiming it's for the benefit to everyone else.

The real solution here is to not have it fail everyone. Not further break off a piece of the game for you.

Big edit: lol wait didn't Hades have this too?

How did anyone get past Hades but not be able to do this?

Communities are here to also discuss concerns, afaik. Slow your roll, buddy. You're being hateful.

I've been here since before ARR and yes I tank. Susan's QTE and Hades were both annoying, but they didn't require to mash THAT hard.

This new trial requires way more mashing in such a short amount of time. It's unforgiving.

I agree that one person messing it up shouldn't wipe the whole party. Save that mechanic for an EX mode.

[Gula]

Except in this case you *can not recover* the fight by raising the person who failed the QTE. How many times do we have to tell you naysayers that the issue most of us have with the QTE is that it's a *wipe mechanic* that some of us cannot clear without pain?

Edit to add: And some of us cannot clear at *all*. Players should not be gated out of story content because a mechanic *hurts* them.

And that's the point of not failing everyone. You're not gated if you're dead. You're just out of commission until the rez-bot can get to you. Struggle QTE's stay, you can still play.

yay

[Shelkiis]

I do kind of hope they\\'ll go away if they\\'re not going to do anything new with it.

The Susano sword blocking thing specifically I like because it\\'s a really cool moment for tanks. Feels good.

But the whole \\'everyone spam button to survive\\' thing has gotten kinda stale IMO.

I totally agree.

[redheadturk]

Also, Lhunuial, if you are one of the ones that agree that QTE should be nerfed I apologize if my quote came off as attacking you. I'm just so sick of these people that think folk like me that #1 aren't all that coordinated in the first place and #2 are in the starting stages of carpal tunnel so this mech actually causes them *pain* are *whining* because we want it changed.

Edit to address Gula: That is what we are *asking* for, Gula. For them to *take the wipe mechanic* out of the QTE. I honestly think that is pretty reasonable.

[Lhunuial]

Also, Lhunuial, if you are one of the ones that agree that QTE should be nerfed I apologize if my quote came off as attacking you. I'm just so sick of these people that think folk like me that #1 aren't all that coordinated in the first place and #2 are in the starting stages of carpal tunnel so this mech actually causes them *pain* are *whining* because we want it changed.

Oh no, I'm sorry if it came across like that. I didn't feel like you were attacking me at all, sorry. Yes, I've been very vocal about getting this QTE changed. I tried the Seat of Sacrifice again this afternoon and the joints in my fingers just block and it hurts so bad when I have to mash buttons for 13 seconds like that and it's not even like the ones before. I can't try it more than once in a single day.

I agree, I'm so sick of people who think we are whining when we're actually asking something really reasonable.

[redheadturk]

Oh no, I'm sorry if it came across like that. I didn't feel like you were attacking me at all, sorry. Yes, I've been very vocal about getting this QTE changed. I tried the Seat of Sacrifice again this afternoon and the joints in my fingers just block and it hurts so bad when I have to mash buttons for 13 seconds like that and it's not even like the ones before. I can't try it more than once in a single day.

I agree, I'm so sick of people who think we are whining when we're actually asking something really reasonable.

Thanks, I can get a little self conscious sometimes that my vitriol might get aimed at the wrong person and I do not want to do that. lol. I'm generally a very polite and reasonable person but I can get kinda grrr at people who come off as elitist. The same issue I have with this QTE is the reason I don't generally raid. I'm just not coordinated enough to do it well.