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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    What's rational about contradicting themselves on saying this isn't a challenge, on a thread complaining this is a challenge for some people?
    Have you finished with educating yourself yet? Add to the list an understanding of diffirences in challenges types, and understanding that people with dissabilities have enough of them as is, without some unfun mechanic which punishes the whole party.
    You're not making any points here. And I've yet to see the answer to why you feel the need to defend the QTE in question so hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatfright View Post
    Have you finished with educating yourself yet? Add to the list an understanding of diffirences in challenges types, and understanding that people with dissabilities have enough of them as is, without some unfun mechanic which punishes the whole party.
    You're not making any points here. And I've yet to see the answer to why you feel the need to defend the QTE in question so hard.
    You're the ones not making any points here, because you're using emotions to argue logic.

    IF you're going to argue that this mechanic needs to be changed because it's a challenge for people with disabilities, you don't next go and point out that the mechanic isn't challenging. Wanting this to change really bad doesn't allow to spout any nonsense you want, just because you have no argument to give for the people who don't want it changed.

    Either it's a challenge or it isn't. You don't get to flipflop on it, whenever you feel like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    IF you're going to argue that this mechanic needs to be changed because it's a challenge for people with disabilities, you don't next go and point out that the mechanic isn't challenging. Wanting this to change really bad doesn't allow to spout any nonsense you want, just because you have no argument to give for the people who don't want it changed.
    That is, for you, any gaming challenge should involve real physical pain? How interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    That is, for you, any gaming challenge should involve real physical pain? How interesting.
    Maybe I just can't read, but I can't see anywhere in what you quoted where they said they think a challenge should involve real physical pain. Can you zero in on that part for me real quick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    Maybe I just can't read
    Sadly yep. You can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    But QTEs aren't challenges according to you guys.
    Reread messages from people who say it hurts them to press that damn button. Again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    Sadly yep. You can't.
    So you're not going to show me that specific part? It shouldn't be difficult if it's actually there.

    Why do you seem so defensive all of a sudden? I asked you for a bit of clarification because I didn't understand what you said, and you only acknowledged me to insult me. Interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doozer View Post
    I didn't understand what you said, and you only acknowledged me to insult me. Interesting.
    No, I did not insult you, do not exaggerate. I just said you couldn't read. What's bad about it? You can handle this on your own. This person confuses the concept of a game challenge and pain symptoms in people who are physically unable to cope due to disability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    Sadly yep. You can't.


    Reread messages from people who say it hurts them to press that damn button. Again.
    Re-read messages from you people who say QTEs aren't challenging so they should be removed. Again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Re-read messages from you people who say QTEs aren't challenging so they should be removed. Again.
    Analogous: Do you consider stairs challenging? Someone in a wheelchair would.

    Also: Button mashing is a very lazy and boring way to add "difficulty" especially since most of the playerbase passes it once they figure out you can push all the buttons.

    The problem is they have a lazy addition of "difficulty" which isn't all that difficult to most of the playerbase but is insurmountable by the few who cannot physically repeatedly smash buttons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Re-read messages from you people who say QTEs aren't challenging so they should be removed. Again.
    Oh, really?

    Quote Originally Posted by RajNish View Post
    We ask the developers to change not the whole fight (if you did not read carefully), we ask to change the QTE. For example, so that the whole group does not die because one player failed.
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