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  1. #91
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    Liam Harper
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    I'll admit I still can't get mine 95% consistent like others here, although they never fail now. I seem stuck around the 5-5.5k mark about half the time. My main issue is Pliant just refusing to appear and strings of Hasty misses, but I'm assuming there's some sort of trick in the rotation that will always get you through to max even on bad rng. For the moment I'm baffled though.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    I'll admit I still can't get mine 95% consistent like others here, although they never fail now. I seem stuck around the 5-5.5k mark about half the time. My main issue is Pliant just refusing to appear and strings of Hasty misses, but I'm assuming there's some sort of trick in the rotation that will always get you through to max even on bad rng. For the moment I'm baffled though.

    Same. Even on Balance no one seems to have a rotation to give them full every time, so no clue how people are hitting max 99% of the time.

    And I swear my Hasty Touch chance is more like 40% instead of 60%. I think I fail nearly every time I get a Sturdy proc.
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    Last edited by Ryaz; 03-14-2020 at 02:01 PM.

  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    I'm curious as to how you could hit 14/15 max collectability! Perhaps I've been using a not-so-good approach all this time?
    Mind to share your stats and approaches please?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21C4LeSGVw

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/4374079/

    sorry if it's a bit nonsensical, I tried to explain the best I could.
    the video shows the priority/decision in real time, I recorded 4 crafts.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21C4LeSGVw

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/4374079/

    sorry if it's a bit nonsensical, I tried to explain the best I could.
    the video shows the priority/decision in real time, I recorded 4 crafts.
    Thanks! I tweaked a couple of things for myself (using MM over WN most of the time was a change I had to make) and my last 8 out of 9 crafts were over 60000 quality... the last one only missed by like 7 points.
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  5. #95
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    Quote Originally Posted by hqdm View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p21C4LeSGVw

    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../blog/4374079/

    sorry if it's a bit nonsensical, I tried to explain the best I could.
    the video shows the priority/decision in real time, I recorded 4 crafts.
    Thanks! It seems like I'm using pretty much the same approach. But I need to use a bit more Observe to bait more conditions. I also forgot about the existence of that skill that leave 1 progress left... it can be handle sometimes. Basically, I just need to expand my arsenal a bit with these 2 buttons.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    I'm curious as to how you could hit 14/15 max collectability! Perhaps I've been using a not-so-good approach all this time?
    Mind to share your stats and approaches please?
    If you're utilizing the conditions, it's really easy to build up 11 stacks of IQ and fire off a gs and innovation buffed byregot's twice during the craft. At least half my synths are complete steamrolls due to a huge surplus of CP and there is a ton of control over how the synths go. You lose control as soon as you use WN2 so I avoid it unless it's part of a RNG free finish.

    I adjust my strategy accordingly depending on how much CP I have available to me during the 2nd half in particular and base my approach on the conditions that are thrown my way. All conditions/procs are useful 90% of the time so it's best not to waste cp in vain by trying to bait pliant conditions. Also, always look for RNG free ways of finishing off the craft.

    It's freehand/active crafting taken to a new extreme. Combines ARR's CP/RNG (simplified version) management with HW's proc baiting and SB's greater flexibility.
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    Last edited by MN_14; 03-14-2020 at 06:32 PM.

  7. #97
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    Lastelli Sungsem
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    The rewards have to be crap, or you'll see countless people whining about it.

    All in all, I think this is what "hardcore crafters" were asking for when they said they wanted a challenge and for the crafting process itself to be interesting.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    The rewards have to be crap, or you'll see countless people whining about it.

    All in all, I think this is what "hardcore crafters" were asking for when they said they wanted a challenge and for the crafting process itself to be interesting.
    We already see people whining about expert recipes, lol. People want everything accessible, even measly titles. Sorry, but we at least deserve some neat mounts and/or glamour. Things shouldn’t be made accessible because someone isn’t good at expert recipes. I don’t wanna sound mean, but it is what it is.
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  9. #99
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    Rin Shima
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    The rewards have to be crap, or you'll see countless people whining about it.

    All in all, I think this is what "hardcore crafters" were asking for when they said they wanted a challenge and for the crafting process itself to be interesting.
    I don't agree with You, its very easy to get 4500 points

    People need to learn, but learning is hard, easier to go forum and whine


    My stats 2512 Craft/2424 control / 552 cp ( my gear has melded V and IV materia for pentamelding - and those are easier to get than VII )
    In 21 try, I got 15 items 100/100% on Expert _ and worst I had was 5443


    - The worst thing about all of this, it's Time Consuming, The people with most time will be on Board(1)
    - Good thing is that, the Mount needs 500k for every job in total, so I don't have to stress out to be on board at all

    Edit:
    and its not like, I use same routine every time on making Ex

    I adapt to proc, dura, cp, sometimes I use PrepararatoryT, or DelicateS, or Prudent, Most of the time its HastyT for yellow, but when I am 11stack on innovation, I refuse to use HastyT

    Only one skill I will never use, coz its totally waste, no mater how many times I did try = NameofElements
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    Last edited by testname; 03-14-2020 at 11:18 PM.

  10. #100
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lastelli View Post
    The rewards have to be crap, or you'll see countless people whining about it.
    I disagree.

    The mentality that any non-combat content that has any sort of difficulty, grind, complexity or time investment must have less rewards just kills off content. Everyone does not need to have every reward in the game.

    Regular crafting is in a ridiculous spot now due to accessibility anyway. I get tired of seeing people complain about overmelds, then I spell out the exact method to be max pentamelded in less than a week for free plus how to stockpile for the future, they ignore it and continue complaining. It's never been easier. There are people complaining Ishgard leveling is hard and they're lv60 with lv20 mainhands because they had so much free exp hurled at them. 480 sets are everywhere too and worthless on the mb, normal raids and dungeons are pretty much irrelevant.

    The more you hand people things on a plate, the lazier they get. They become used to not needing effort.
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