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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    There is a difference between "I do not have enough free time for savage" and "competitive raiders have to skip cutscenes to stay competitive". The first one is purely a life circumstance, the other is the form of content release being punishing to a certain type of player regardless of their life circumstance. Even if you have patch day off it's still rush rush rush, especially if you are also crafting and gathering for gear.
    That's true, the comparison isn't perfect. That said, it's still just a problem derived from lack of time.

    In a perfect world they could have it both ways without negatively affecting others, but that's unfortunately not the case here. That's why I'd be happy with whatever side is the true majority (if the devs decided to measure and adhere to that).

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    These aren't actually my problems. I'm a casual raider. The proposed content release delay will have little to no affect on me. However in the past I was a hardcore raider in another game so I can very easily empathise with those who feel the current form of content release is stressful and actually negatively impacts storytelling.

    OP's desired content release pattern already happens at expansion launch. If SE can do it then, then they can do it for other patches as well. OP isn't asking for something the game hasn't seen before.
    The fact that the delay happens at the start of the expansion doesn't really negate the fact that this delay would cause problems for people during the ensuing patches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I did not personally accuse you of anything. Read it again:
    Oh I don't really care if you were accusing me personally or if it was just towards people in general. My point was that you (and too many other people in here) are making those types of accusations and asking for understanding or empathy, but then you turn around and wave away the notion that any problems with the delay are legitimate.

    I'm not sure if it's a self-awareness blind spot or if people are just being actively selfish. Either way, I think it's hypocritical to request empathy when there isn't any being given in return.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valorak View Post
    The fact that the delay happens at the start of the expansion doesn't really negate the fact that this delay would cause problems for people during the ensuing patches.
    Genuine question: what problems would they cause?

    Part of the issue is that SE do not really say when a patch is until the release is very close, so for some people it makes it very difficult to book time off work. With a delay on savage players obviously would have a more opportunity to make time for it. More than just hardcore players would benefit from this.

    Anyone interested in the story doesn't want to skip it, and the current situation means competitive players have to choose between their desired raid environment or the story. This problem doesn't exist at expansion launches due to the delay. Furthermore I don't see anyone even complaining about that delay...so why is it such a bad thing to have it be standard for every tier? Why is it only okay for the first tier, but not the rest? Why are people able to be patient enough for the first tier, but not the rest? Savage isn't even the bulk of the patch content, far from it. This delay wouldn't even register on most player's radar because most don't even touch savage.

    Due to the fact that we have the delay at expansion launch without controversy, I am puzzled as to how having it for every tier could cause issues. What is wrong with having every tier's patch content release act the same way? If it doesn't cause issues at the first tier, why would it for the rest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    You make a choice by alarm-clocking savage, skip NM cutscenes or be cut. Savage tier lasts six months. The majority do not world race savage. The <1% shouldn't dictate this decision.
    The raid community makes up only 15-20% of the overall playerbase if I'm being generous. So right off the bat, this change would go unnoticed by the overwhelming majority. You're also making the assumption only World Racers would appreciate this delay yet several people have chimed they would also welcome a delay from a midcore perspective due to work or school scheduling making it difficult to line things up. Considering the reception my suggestion has received, I'd argue its safe to assume the percentage is much higher than 1%.
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