It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[kujoestars]

Okay, I’ve only skimmed through this topic, but I don’t think I see anyone pointing out that glamours are literally canon considering the unlock quest and prisms being part of some quests. Taking that into account, it’s really not that immersion-breaking to see tanks in regular clothes because they don’t want to stand out (or feel like they’re wearing heavy armir depending if the glamour also affects one’s sense of touch). Heck, it’s not implausible for tanks to make their armor look like skimpy clothing just for the hell of it (or they just want to show off their bod while also still receiving protection).

If you look at it from this perspective, it’s just another day in the weird world of Adventurer Land. Idk, I can understand why some people want this feature but at the same time......I don’t want anyone seeing the horrendous garbage I am covering with elegant gear just because they think my glam is inappropriate and “immersion-breaking” for a monk. Lr literally any arbitrary reason. Honestly, I don’t even see that many naked people anyway, but maybe that’s because I’m on Zalera so what do I know?

Regardless, how the heck this feature would work without borking the code is probably more trouble than the devs would care to touch.

[Joven]

Okay, I’ve only skimmed through this topic, but I don’t think I see anyone pointing out that glamours are literally canon considering the unlock quest and prisms being part of some quests. Taking that into account, it’s really not that immersion-breaking to see tanks in regular clothes because they don’t want to stand out (or feel like they’re wearing heavy armir depending if the glamour also affects one’s sense of touch). Heck, it’s not implausible for tanks to make their armor look like skimpy clothing just for the hell of it (or they just want to show off their bod while also still receiving protection).

If you look at it from this perspective, it’s just another day in the weird world of Adventurer Land. Idk, I can understand why some people want this feature but at the same time......I don’t want anyone seeing the horrendous garbage I am covering with elegant gear just because they think my glam is inappropriate and “immersion-breaking” for a monk. Lr literally any arbitrary reason. Honestly, I don’t even see that many naked people anyway, but maybe that’s because I’m on Zalera so what do I know?

Regardless, how the heck this feature would work without borking the code is probably more trouble than the devs would care to touch.

I would say that glamours aren't "canon" in the sense that, unless it's a quest/class related piece of gear, no character reacts to what you're wearing. If you roll up in a man-kini and Namazu head no NPC exclaims something like "what an...interesting outfit you've chosen." Just because it's a side quest doesn't make it part of the world as a whole. It's a grey area of existing within the game, but only as something as a game function, not as a world function.

[kujoestars]

I would say that glamours aren't "canon" in the sense that, unless it's a quest/class related piece of gear, no character reacts to what you're wearing. If you roll up in a man-kini and Namazu head no NPC exclaims something like "what an...interesting outfit you've chosen." Just because it's a side quest doesn't make it part of the world as a whole. It's a grey area of existing within the game, but only as something as a game function, not as a world function.

And most NPCs don’t react to what species you are so I can traipse all over Eorzea as a giant purple lizardman with no one so much as batting an eye despite the fact Auri are almost never seen in Eorzea. Even factoring in Au Ra not being in ARR, the fact Yugiri was trying to minimize showing her actual species still says a lot about how unusual it is.

It is exceedingly rare to have race acknowledged period, whether it’s logical or not (Raen and majority of Xaela NPCs treat PCs the same as any other race, even though logically with the latter at least there should be some familiarity but apparently there’s only 2 or 3 that give special dialogue to Xaela players). As such, the only reason NPCs don’t react to completely silly glams is simply because how the heck would you even code recognition of ridiculous glams? Actually, try defining “ridiculous glams” to a parser of all things. It’s not worth the effort to code in and so NPCs are blind to it.

No one comments on Jandelaine’s more major changes either even though Aesthetician is definitely canon. No one’s going to comment on what you did to your hair (even if it’s the giant pomp in some crazy color) or any facial plastic surgery you do.

I stand by that glamours are canon simply because they are at least somewhat acknowledged just like Jandelaine is acknowledged. I actually like that this game incorporated them into lore instead of simply making them “just is” like WoW’s transmog system. “NPCs don’t react at all” is very poor argument because they never respond to anything that involves customization period.

And ironically, by your exact same comment, you supported my argument here because if you were hypothetically wearing the actual mankini with a Namazu head, they still aren’t going to react even though you are actually wearing a ridiculous outfit. And yes, the mascot suits are canon considering we have NPCs that wear them. >.>;

[Joven]

And most NPCs don’t react to what species you are so I can traipse all over Eorzea as a giant purple lizardman with no one so much as batting an eye despite the fact Auri are almost never seen in Eorzea. Even factoring in Au Ra not being in ARR, the fact Yugiri was trying to minimize showing her actual species still says a lot about how unusual it is.

It is exceedingly rare to have race acknowledged period, whether it’s logical or not (Raen and majority of Xaela NPCs treat PCs the same as any other race, even though logically with the latter at least there should be some familiarity but apparently there’s only 2 or 3 that give special dialogue to Xaela players). As such, the only reason NPCs don’t react to completely silly glams is simply because how the heck would you even code recognition of ridiculous glams? Actually, try defining “ridiculous glams” to a parser of all things. It’s not worth the effort to code in and so NPCs are blind to it.

No one comments on Jandelaine’s more major changes either even though Aesthetician is definitely canon. No one’s going to comment on what you did to your hair (even if it’s the giant pomp in some crazy color) or any facial plastic surgery you do.

I stand by that glamours are canon simply because they are at least somewhat acknowledged just like Jandelaine is acknowledged. I actually like that this game incorporated them into lore instead of simply making them “just is” like WoW’s transmog system.

Jandelaine was handled way better than the glamours were. Even if no-one reacts to your hairstyle having him around is a unique, in world way to update your appearance whereas glamours were basically just "hey, this thing exists, now you can do it." I would have much preferred it to have been added as just a feature as opposed to trying to shoehorn it into some kind of in-world thing that way. That's what sparks these kinds of "debates" as to what is considered real to the world and what is just a feature to use. If glamours would have been implemented similar to how Jandelaine was it would make more sense. Something like the sylphs wanted express their gratitude for all the help you've given them so one of them decides to either teach you how to use glamour magic, or shows up whenever you want to alter your gear.