Patch 5.2 Notes (Preliminary)

[Voidedge_Ragna]

I really hope the fc ranks and rewards are not final ... like what were they thinking.

You know what fcs need? More storage fir actions.

This cuts down a once per 5 day trip to once all 2 weeks its blowing my mind and it has 3 levels! In best case i only need to buy em once a month could you imagine the gainz our fc has if 1 person saves 5 min a week? Broken

Fc shop? No
3rd active action? No
Lv 3 purchaseable ? No
Lv 4 craftable ? No
Fc events ? No
New item purchaseable ? No
New icons ? No
More furnishing slots ? No
Better chocobo training ? No
Fc specific glam gear ? No

Your chest is bigger!!!!!!!!!1111!!!111@!!!1

Give us unlocks ... 10mil for a 3rd active action slot? Fc credits are good for nothing but fuel.

So far all we get is 2 chests which is nice but ... that just cant be all ... we sit on nearly 50mil credits and theres nothing we can do.

Heres hope ... since the patch only lists 8 to 20 that 20 to 30 has something legit. Else this will be the biggest middlefinger we could get as an fc.

DISSAPOINTED

[Xiomara]

So, does anyone else read the Patch Notes and deduct that you need to do the MSQ to unlock Savage?.

But you don't? To unlock Eden Savage, you just need to Eden Normal, which is unlocked by doing the quest "Away with the Faerie", which only needs you do to the quests for the first set of Eden floors.

Only Ruby weapon needs the first quest of the MSQ done, presumably to explain why Gaius is talking to the Alliance.

[MrThinker]

But you don't? To unlock Eden Savage, you just need to Eden Normal, which is unlocked by doing the quest "Away with the Faerie", which only needs you do to the quests for the first set of Eden floors.

The final quest for the next leg of Eden's story requires certain 5.2 MSQ progression as indicated by the "???". Usually, for 8-man raids, it is the last quest in the tier that needs to be completed to unlock savage. Keeping that in mind, RicaRuin came to the conclusion that completing the new MSQ would be required to get to Eden's Verse Savage.

[Ryaz]

Removing Ingenuity is going to kill a lot of crafting macros, considering it was the backbone of many rotations.

[Fhaerron]

The final quest for the next leg of Eden's story requires certain 5.2 MSQ progression as indicated by the "???". Usually, for 8-man raids, it is the last quest in the tier that needs to be completed to unlock savage. Keeping that in mind, RicaRuin came to the conclusion that completing the new MSQ would be required to get to Eden's Verse Savage.

Ok, is it yes or no then? All this talking about me got me confused.

[Kinazu]

But you don't? To unlock Eden Savage, you just need to Eden Normal, which is unlocked by doing the quest "Away with the Faerie", which only needs you do to the quests for the first set of Eden floors.

Only Ruby weapon needs the first quest of the MSQ done, presumably to explain why Gaius is talking to the Alliance.

My thoughts exactly. Raids are in their own bubble, the only thing you need to do to progress is doing the raid and finishing the end quest of an expansion.
For Alexander you had to complete the Heavensward Quest (3.0 finale) and maybe a sidequest or two, but for the other tiers you just had to have done the previous tier and their quests. Savage could be unlocked the moment you finished the normal tier's quests.
Same for Omega, you had to complete the Stormblood Quest (4.0 finale) and then you could pick up the start of Omega, with the next tier being unlocked after you completed the previous normal tier and Savage, again, after you completed the current normal tier quests.
I think this might even hold true for Bahamut, but I didn't do it when it was current so I can't say for sure.

I really don't see them changing this any time soon. Heck, even the Alliance raids use the same set-up. They're all in their own bubble and just come after another, the only MSQ you have to finish is their relative x.0 MSQ.

[DumdogsWorld]

Removing Ingenuity is going to kill a lot of crafting macros, considering it was the backbone of many rotations.

I'm pretty sure that's the point. While not directly stated by them in any way, recent changes lead me to believe that Square Enix does not wish for crafters to rely on macros for their rotations.

[ShadowNyx3]

"After completing the quest "???," speak to Lewrey in Amh Araeng (X:26.8 Y:16.4) as a level 80 Disciple of War or Magic." Is the requirement for unlocking Savage. The confusion seems to be that the last quest in the Eden's Verse storyline contains the conditions: "Players must first complete the main scenario quest "???" and the Chronicles of a New Era quest "???""

Unlocking Eden's Gate Savage required completing the last available quest in 5.05 "The Next Piece of the Puzzle" so I can see where there's concern that the same ??? quest to unlock Savage this time will be the one with the MSQ requirement.

But since it's all a bunch of ???s, I guess we'll have to wait and see on release or maybe Yoshi will clear up the concern when he reads the patch notes.

[Ryaz]

I'm pretty sure that's the point. While not directly stated by them in any way, recent changes lead me to believe that Square Enix does not wish for crafters to rely on macros for their rotations.

I think macros are fine for less difficult things and for mats and the like. But for final products that actually sell for a lot of gil? Yes, it should require actual participation.

[shao32]

expert is now a 1 dungeon "roulette" *sigh*