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    Removing Ingenuity is going to kill a lot of crafting macros, considering it was the backbone of many rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Removing Ingenuity is going to kill a lot of crafting macros, considering it was the backbone of many rotations.
    I'm pretty sure that's the point. While not directly stated by them in any way, recent changes lead me to believe that Square Enix does not wish for crafters to rely on macros for their rotations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's the point. While not directly stated by them in any way, recent changes lead me to believe that Square Enix does not wish for crafters to rely on macros for their rotations.
    I think macros are fine for less difficult things and for mats and the like. But for final products that actually sell for a lot of gil? Yes, it should require actual participation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    Removing Ingenuity is going to kill a lot of crafting macros, considering it was the backbone of many rotations.
    It will certainly kill every macro I currently run including the ones I use for my 6k+ difficulty lvl80 2-star crafts. Will need to go back to the drawing board. Though I'll probably focus on my FSH first due to the Ocean Fishing and the Gathering beast tribe. Hopefully, by the time i'm ready teamcraft will have their page updated so I can use the rotation builder to test some stuff out.

    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's the point. While not directly stated by them in any way, recent changes lead me to believe that Square Enix does not wish for crafters to rely on macros for their rotations.
    Hopefully, this is not the case and they still let us macro or i'm probably going to consider stopping crafting completely. I don't like to think while crafting. I'll pop an audio book on and spam my macros while listening to it. It's relaxing. Remove that and no point for me anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElazulHP View Post
    It will certainly kill every macro I currently run including the ones I use for my 6k+ difficulty lvl80 2-star crafts. Will need to go back to the drawing board. Though I'll probably focus on my FSH first due to the Ocean Fishing and the Gathering beast tribe. Hopefully, by the time i'm ready teamcraft will have their page updated so I can use the rotation builder to test some stuff out.



    Hopefully, this is not the case and they still let us macro or i'm probably going to consider stopping crafting completely. I don't like to think while crafting. I'll pop an audio book on and spam my macros while listening to it. It's relaxing. Remove that and no point for me anymore.
    I wouldn't cry the blues just yet.... if you read just a bit after the part where they say ingenuity is being removed the notes also say:

    It is now easier to increase progress and quality for recipes higher than your current level.
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    Due to changes to the crafting system, the required progress and maximum quality of certain recipes have been reduced.
    Which implies that Ingenuity might be removed because its no longer necessary due to those nerfs. It's quite possible the above changes mean all crafting is like having ingenuity permanently active with no CP cost. We'll have to wait and see it live to know for certain.
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