Crafter and Gatherer jump potions

[Nandrolone]

Not attacking anyone and read my entire post so you dont waste my time. Your reaction to my post and the hardcore communities reaction to what SE is giving reward wise is points too you wanting just what I said. Causal community and SE know you want a challenge their trying to give it to you. But it when it comes to rewards, what their offering is not good by the way hardcore crafters are acting. Dont like guesses then say exactly what the hardcore community wants as rewards or stop complaining!! Its constant the whinning that rewards are not good enough and that your not being challenged that irks the causal community, especially when SE is trying to appease you.

Oh, I apologize. If I’m wasting your time, you are welcome to not respond. I’m just trying to understand. Also, we have made it very clear what rewards we would like to have, that was kind of a redundant statement. Do you really need me to link all threads and posts? Come on, lol. Also, you didn’t answer me. I asked you: assuming you’re right about hardcore players wanting things to be a “5%” endgame groupie thing, how does that in any way shape or form affect you as a player in FFXIV? How does that hinder you from participating in dungeons, raids, gathering, or crafting? Why does that have to be removed from the game? Because it angers you? Let’s start there.

[NanaWiloh]

Oh, I apologize. If I’m wasting your time, you are welcome to not respond. I’m just trying to understand. Also, we have made it very clear what rewards we would like to have, that was kind of a redundant statement. Do you really need me to link all threads and posts? Come on, lol. Also, you didn’t answer me. I asked you: assuming you’re right about hardcore players wanting things to be a “5%” endgame groupie thing, how does that in any way shape or form affect you as a player in FFXIV? How does that hinder you from participating in dungeons, raids, gathering, or crafting? Why does that have to be removed from the game? Because it angers you? Let’s start there.

Not answering the question cause it was not what I was addressing. I am well aware of the rewards everyones asked for and there lays the isssue...people are still complaining about rewards. SE is giving you skytools, leaderboards,titles, possibly mounts and transmogs who's knows what else. So your getting your High stat cool looking tools, your status symbols and ways to make gil, but yet you are still throwing a fuss!!!

[Nandrolone]

Not answering the question cause it was not what I was addressing. I am well aware of the rewards everyones asked for and there lays the isssue...people are still complaining about rewards. SE is giving you skytools, leaderboards,titles, possibly mounts and transmogs who's knows what else. So your getting your High stat cool looking tools, your status symbols and ways to make gil, but yet you are still throwing a fuss!!!

Well, if you’re trying to make a sound argument, it would be good if you at least explain why you said what you said, about why being a “5% crafter” is something that affects you, as a player...and why it should be removed in the first place?

Also, there’s hardly any info on skytools, like , at all. We need to wait until the live letter on the 6th for further information. If it’s special and exclusive/rare kind of like Lucis tools were in 2.x, cool. If it’s not, and it’s something literally anyone with a copy/pasted macro can do, count me out fam lol. Might as well be giving me a golden sticker from kindergarten that says “you’re a super star!” It’s meaningless if that’s the case. If there’s a way to earn gil through expert recipes? Cool, count me in. Problem is, nothing has been confirmed yet for sure, and all you are doing is assuming.

We need more information.

[NanaWiloh]

Well, if you’re trying to make a sound argument, it would be good if you at least explain why you said what you said, about why being a “5% crafter” is something that affects you, as a player.

Also, there’s hardly any info on skytools, like , at all. We need to wait until the live letter on the 6th for further information. If it’s special and exclusive/rare kind of like Lucis tools were in 2.x, cool. If it’s not, and it’s something literally anyone with a copy/pasted macro can do, count me out fam lol. Might as well be giving me a golden sticker from kindergarten that says “you’re a super star!” It’s meaningless if that’s the case. If there’s a way to earn gil through expert recipes? Cool, count me in. Problem is, nothing has been confirmed yet for sure, and all you are doing is assuming.

We need more information.

Never said it affects me I said you guys cant seem to fill that void. As for my statment it was a guess at why everyone cant seem to be content with what SE is offering. I further more have no desire to take things from hardcore players, I have achieved my goals so far with crafting. Expert recipes do not hold anything I need or want to achieve further goals, and will be for those who goals extend past mine who long for more. I have interest in crafitng magicked bed to ride but have no interest in Skytools if thats anything to go by my goals are vastly different.