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    WhyAmIHere's Avatar
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    Mute Shellback
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    Behemoth
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyNeko View Post
    The dude said it was for a niche situation in his first post about pulling adds aggro when you are already in mid combat and cannot move due to movements with the current target but then you proceed to misunderstand his point and get very rude in your response. Even when he had stepped back multiple times to de-escalate the conversation you just keep attacking a point he wasn't making.

    You should really address his point for his particular "niche" scenario instead of just saying his niche scenario cannot be applied to general tactics (which he isn't advocating for).
    Yes because he's overlooking two very obvious things:

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    Healing spells generate 50% potency as enmity to *every enemy in combat*

    or to put that in practical terms: you can clemency and generate enmity (and with tank stance) likely get aggro on an add more than 25y away...
    or just spawning in...
    or without repositioning...
    Or multiple adds within a single GCD, something beyond provoke or shield lob could ever hope to do.

    by simply overhealing yourself with 1 GCD.

    it's *extremely* niche and screws with your rotation, but it's there. GNB has aurora. WAR has equilibrium. PLD can do it, too. DRK just... cries in the corner, i guess.
    1) just move. there's nothing in the game that I can think of that both spawns adds and prevents movement. If you really care about not moving that much that's a problem with the tank, not anyone else. DPS crying about positionals? oh well, better to lose some potency than to get hate on an add and stress the healers with having too many targets to heal.
    1a) If you cannot just move to grab the target(s) and it's out of range of shield lob / holy spirit? Provoke exists and won't screw with your resources nor rotation More'n one? Well, by the time that DPS/Healer gets the aggro on it the mob'll move into position/range for a ranged aggro tool that isn't clemency.
    2) I did address his point. Just because you don't agree with my methods doesn't mean his points are blatantly bad and wrong, nor that I'm *wrong in calling his idea bad for the reasons I've given.
    *2a) Establishing aggro, as other people have said, is a joke.
    *2b) That "niche" situation he brought up? It's so unlikely to even happen at all whatsoever that it wasn't worth considering, especially because it hinges on using a gorram MANA POTION to pull off!
    2c) While I started off and being very blunt, I was not the one to respond with "your patronizing is noted. however, you either dont even understand what you quoted, or stopped 3 words in. Your ire is misguided." Nor was I the first one to insinuate that his gear was lacking as he did mine by assuming I had "green gear from Grand Cosmos." He took what I said, which was a serious and severe critique of his strategy, and misconstrued it as "you're a dumb person and a bad player at that" personal attack, which was far from what I meant. If anyone here is misconstruing anything, it aint me chief.
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    Last edited by WhyAmIHere; 01-17-2020 at 04:32 PM. Reason: added 2 points