Viera head gear -_-

[LinaNyx]

I realized that when I logged in today to do the Heavensturn event that I've completely stopped being surprised when new items just can't be worn by my viera. The fact that I realized that I'm not even surprised anymore is a little depressing. I love how my Viera looks (especially in cutscenes) much better than my old Hyur that I ran around as before. But I miss having a wider range of hairstyles and head pieces that I could switch around. Now I look at all the gear and hairstyles that I worked for or bought just sitting there being useless and I keep hoping that they will get around to fixing that but that hope dies a little bit more every time I see new items added in game that I simply can't use.

Now I don't know a lot about code or what goes into games but when I see that random old head pieces are able to be used I'm just really confused about why new items can't be used. For example the werewolf ears just completely hide viera bunny ears so I'm not sure what the problem is with helmets or hoods? Again I really don't know what is and is not possible but I am disappointed.

Anyone else have thoughts about this or info I've missed about what SE is doing about headgear for viera/hrothgar?

[LaylaTsarra]

I find it a bit disturbing that NEW ITEMS aren't made to fit Viera. I hope this changes and that we get some relief soon. 5.2 needs to be a turning point in the availability of hairstyles and other related items. I find it hard to understand why it's taking so long at this point.

[Avidria]

I gave up and switched back to cat. Won't be touching any new races again until they're updated to the level of customizability available to every other race in the game.

[Iscah]

Now I don't know a lot about code or what goes into games but when I see that random old head pieces are able to be used I'm just really confused about why new items can't be used. For example the werewolf ears just completely hide viera bunny ears so I'm not sure what the problem is with helmets or hoods? Again I really don't know what is and is not possible but I am disappointed.

It's not exactly "random old items" though, it's specific types of old items - ones that can be equipped without affecting the character's hair.

When they first announced Viera and Hrothgar the plan was for them to not have visible headgear at all - apparently they underestimated how much players would care about this, and designed the characters in ways that didn't allow for them to equip headgear. (I'm not a programmer either but I assume it's to do with how normally parts of the character's hair can 'switch off' when headgear is equipped - particularly for Hrothgar with their manes being modeled as part of the head, but there's clearly something unusual going on with Viera too.)

Because of the player reaction to that announcement, they went back and added the items that were possible to add - apparently in their own unpaid time, if that's not PR spin.

So you'll see circlets, hairpins and masks - but not hats.

I don't have a Viera character myself so I'm not clear on what exceptions there might be, but that's the general logic of why some items, whether old or new, are visible while others aren't.

[LinaNyx]

I wrote it as random old items simply because I have no idea where the werewolf ears fit in the types of code they used. Also I can get that they don't have the time to play around to get all the older items working (especially if they aren't getting paid to do it) I'm honestly more disappointed that so far all the new gear entered in game has the same issues. For example the Heavensturn event, you have to select one of those helmets to finish the quest and have the npc vendor opened up. But I now have a item that I can't even use so it'll just get shoved in storage for now. I know the helmets for Heavensturn are silly looking but once in a while I like making up a silly glam to run around in for a day or so.

[Iscah]

It's not about getting "the items" working though - it's getting the hair working in a way that will correctly interact with the items. They haven't programmed it to do that, and either can't or won't go back to change it. I'm not sure it's possible with the character designs they have.

New items that are hats will not be designed to work with Viera because it's an established design rule (whether it should be or not) that hats do not display on Viera.

New items that are not hats will be equippable.

[Britha]

It truly is reaching the point of great concern that nothing is being done for Viera or Hrothgar. It's been long enough, they need to start really giving these races attention. There really is no excuse for it and as more and more updates come and go with nothing for them it just gets even more frustrating.

[TheMightyMollusk]

It's unfortunate, but hardly surprising. And it's not like I was ever going to do more than try the helms on and then toss them in the armoir anyway.

[Vahlnir]

I probably wouldn't use these headpieces anyway, but man...that's a bit ridiculous. Old items I could understand, but when they are releasing new pieces of gear they should be modeled for the new races too. There is no reason for this. But...I guess I can toss that into the growing pile of questionable decisions they are making in Shadowbringers.

[Gojin]

Yeah I was all excited to pound the mochi this morning then I check the helm in quest and see my viera cant wear it and unsubbed be back in 5.2