Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
Theres give an take. The give is that people shouldnt be a jerk, but the take is that there has to be a line. You cant set a line, have someone toe it, and then punish them arbitrarily with the caveat of there being an exception as to why. For example, if the rules say you cant harass or disparage someone in a racist way, you can call someone a jerk and be done with it but you cant call them a racist word. Both are technically being mean to the person, but there is a line to what goes to far.

Or if were gonna consider extreme exceptions like Arthars case - He wouldve been fine talking about someone without giving a description or name or any pertinent information to identify that person, but crossed the line when he made sure to make the name known. The line is identifying the person and then going to town on them verbally. It gets more damning cause personally I think he knew the rules but went to do it on Twitch specifically to get around the exact wording or precedent of the rules, while fully understanding the rules were intended to stop the very thing he was doing. the spirit of the rules was anti harassment/naming-and-shaming, so he tried to be clever by doing it on twitch. In the full literal sense, he didnt violate any ToS or precedent directly, but it was clear he was using a loophole to do exactly what the rules were meant to prevent.
When I imply a clear cut line, I mean the company saying "These are the exact circumstances that will warrant a ban" in their ToS, which is what Angus was implying. What we have now of the general "Don't be a jerk to others" works because it's broad and nondescript enough to encompass most forms of assholery, and most people are aware enough to know when they're about to be an asshole. I don't think the onus is on SE to specifically outline what it means to be a jerk to others; the vast majority of us know how to be civil, even if we have the occasional arguments, and if you don't, SE sitting you down and saying "If you keep this up, we don't want you in our game" by banning you is enough of a punishment and a wake-up call to weed out the people who can't act like a person, and I can't believe I'm saying this unironically, in a society.