Ishgardian Restoration world visit.

[EnigMatt]

The issue of wanderers camping The Firmament was in full force for me and my friends earlier tonight. While I myself wasn't even able to access the zone from a half hour before the Concerted Work began, people I know who did get in early faced other problems. Another user did not have the objects you need to interact with to contribute to the Fate load in properly, resulting in them receiving no credit.

[SerenityChiba]

The World Visit system is great for shopping, but in terms of this, Home World players should be #1 when it comes to participating in this event, vs allowing those from other worlds in here. So if someone from Adamantoise wants to come in, someone from another world should be booted out so that the Home World player can take part in the event.

[Aramyth]

Who are you to say something is a failure when you're not the one seeing SE's profits or internal data for XIV? Edit: Heck, it hasn't even been 72 hours!

I said, "complete failure to consider the reprocussions of certain scenarios".

[JBee]

World Visit System and Firmament Player Cap

Around the time that concerted works began, we saw a lot of players using the World Visit System, which caused the Firmament in the World they are visiting to reach its player cap, and many players were unable to participate in concerted works in their Home World as a result.

This point came up during the development of the Ishgardian Restoration, and we were aware of the risks involved in players visiting other Worlds to help. However, we decided not to place those kinds of restrictions on the World Visit System for the following reasons:

• The number of crafters and gatherers varies considerably between Worlds. The Worlds with the most crafters and gatherers have over four times as many as those with the least.
• Worlds with low numbers of crafters and gatherers would struggle to carry out concerted works without visitors from other Worlds, creating a risk that those players would not be able to experience this content as intended.

The difference in the number of active crafters and gatherers is the main reason for the varying degrees of progress between the various Worlds shown on the Lodestone’s Builders’ Progress Report.

To help ease this disparity, we decided to allow players to visit other Worlds within their data center and lend their assistance to the Ishgardian Restoration efforts of that World.

This is the first time we have implemented this type of cross-world content, and we apologize for the issues described above. However, for the first few days following the release of this content, we would like to observe the trends in each World before coming to any decisions.

We understand that being unable to participate in the Ishgardian Restoration on your own World can be very stressful. But please rest assured that we are preparing emergency measures that we can put into action should the situation deteriorate, at which time an announcement will be made. In the meantime, we ask for your patience and understanding as we work to improve your experience with this content.

People from the Home World should be given priority over Wanderers.

People from other servers blocking a home server is ridiculous. More than 45 minutes before the FATE this evening on my server is available, and the Firmament is congested.

Over 45 minutes of being locked out of The Firmament.

I get you want to see if it has escalated, well it's gotten steadily worse from what I've seen so far on my server.

I have no issues with people from other servers participating in events to help or to get extra rewards - that's not the issue.

But having AFK Wanderers standing around in The Firmament doing nothing but blocking someone else - including not even participating in the FATE - is a joke. Put a timer on AFK people, restrict access to The Firmament and allow handins at the Aetheryte in Ishguard. Add instances of the FATEs. SOMETHING.

[LaylaTsarra]

They need to add two more instances and it would solve most of the issues we have atm. Surprisingly they didn't really think it through that one would be enough and especially give the fate itself awards so many scripts it's an easy way to get them by hopping from server to server when the time comes. The hunt train mentality has really taken hold with them.

Not sure how difficult it is to add instances but I would think they could address that pretty quickly in an emergency maintenance.

[SerenityChiba]

They need to add two more instances and it would solve most of the issues we have atm. Surprisingly they didn't really think it through that one would be enough and especially give the fate itself awards so many scripts it's an easy way to get them by hopping from server to server when the time comes. The hunt train mentality has really taken hold with them.

Not sure how difficult it is to add instances but I would think they could address that pretty quickly in an emergency maintenance.

Not necessarily, because you would just have more Wanderers coming in and hogging up spots for Home Worlders. Even WITH instances.

[Vnolan]

Did a custom search of AFK players in Gilgamesh's Firmament. Got 115 hits and that's only for players that haven't disabled their AFK status from being applied after a time. For what it's worth, 23 were wanderers.

Edit: Did another search about 25 minutes after the previous one (one minute before the FATE) and got 54 hits and it was dropping by the second, so yes, people are AFKing for the FATE

Edit #2: Did a search on Siren at what was supposedly 40 minutes before the FATE and saw 110 AFKs, with 47 being wanderers. The area was congested and you could not enter at that time

[wanderingnerd]

Just annoying that most casual players can't do this. Seems like SE relax policy on bots have only exponentially made this problem worse with the lack of instance , afks, and server only. One friend of mine will probably unsubscribed and wait till the next patch as this is a mess and wanted help leveling crafters. I am almost tempted to unsubscribe too but I raid and won't let my other friends down.
Hope ya remedy this soon.
Thanks

[Lissandra]

World Visitors aren't turning in things for progress, they're clogging up the zone afking once they see the fate is coming up in 1-2 hrs. Even on Crystal, the smaller servers aren't terribly behind the larger ones. Its inevitable that the turnout will drop once people get their loot...but did SE really not foresee it being a hot mess for the first few weeks?

At the absolute very least this zone should have had the 3 instances so that even if you are locked out of the fate you can turn things in for your home server. After I got home from work I was locked out of Balmung's Firmament for over an hour because people were camping for the fate that early.

Yeah, this is pretty sad. I didn't fully unlock the firmament yet and had gone out to do something else real quick last night. And apparently, our server's fate was up in like a little under 2 hours and when I tried to go back in to complete the quest, I could not. I was forced to go to another server just to do so, which I feel I shouldn't have to.

[Mirhd]

Reading shout chat in my server's firmament before the FATE starts, and it's (again) composed of people from off-world bragging about getting in, how they didn't contribute and are here solely for the FATE, etc. Things are dire NOW, Yoshi P. I do appreciate the work that goes into maintaining a game like this, but it really is ridiculous that this happened to begin with, and that - somehow - it currently isn't seen as a problem. It's been proven time and time again, that if something can be exploited, many less conscientious people will take advantage of it. Those of us that don't engage in this server hopping garbage shouldn't be forced to wait for those that do to profit off our work before we can even gain access to our own server's firmament.

Not wanting to miss out again, I've been sitting in the firmament for well over an hour and a half, crafting food items when I ran out of restoration mats. I would have gone out to farm more if area congestion due to the huge influx of wanderers wasn't an issue. And to those that try to excuse this behaviour... I'd rather stay in here and deny a server hopper a spot for something they never contributed to. Absolutely absurd, this whole situation.