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    Brightshadow's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Lumen Stargazer
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    If PLD got a raise, it would be come REQUIRED to bring for all raids.

    This is a terrible idea.
    How so? Because last I checked RDM isn't brought to all raids and if you raise enough your DPS is so low that you will wipe. I also added drawbacks for using it. This spell is mostly for small parties like for stuff like deep dungeons and leveling dungeons. And of course for progression parties but all raids have enrages and two healers that can already raise.

    I honestly love how people say this is a terrible idea without describing situations where it would be OP. If a PLD ends up raising in a full party the chances of success are still like 1% since my version would consume all your MP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Launched View Post
    Raise doesn't belong on a job that uses free combos most of the time.
    Its not free, my version consumes all your MP, it takes 8s of your DPS combo or your divine seal cooldown, and it doesn't allow clemency till you get 2k MP.

    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    The reasons for asking for it tend to be much poorer than those shooting it down. And It's not like this is the first time it's come up for debate.
    How so? As I said people keep saying it's a horrible idea but without examples to support where it would be OP.

    The reality is that if PLD raises in Relevent content you will wipe due to enrage. This is more for progression and small parties.

    Quote Originally Posted by aodhan_ofinnegain View Post
    If you need a PLD to raise you, you deserve to wipe for being bad at the game.

    Edit: why the hell does it risk spending possibly four times the amount of mana than any other job to raise.
    To balance it out.

    Quote Originally Posted by VargasVermillion View Post
    If any class survives after a major party wipe or screw up it's definitely PLD, giving them a revive would be a tad broken from my experience.
    Finally someone who presents a situation and doesn't just claim it's OP. While a valid point my version consumes all your MP, and the revived member still wouldn't have enough MP to raise for around 5-10s so your chances of success are still very low, and most likely enrage will kill you if everyone in your party is dead.
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    Last edited by Brightshadow; 11-09-2019 at 08:16 AM.