Thread: PLD Raise Spell in 6.0?

PLD used to have the actual spell Raise available as a cross-class ability under the old system up til Stormblood was released (assuming you unlocked CNJ and levelled it), alas not many players bothered equipping it due to not being able to cast it during battle (due to CNJ/WHM having a trait that allowed them to do so). I still did though as it did come in handy from time to time (such as coming across a low level player KO'd in a FATE or during a levequest, and thus also helpful for working on the 'Kindness of Strangers' achievements). Having a PLD-specific raise spell would be nice to have, but I doubt it will be added.

Originally Posted by Enkidoh

PLD used to have the actual spell Raise available as a cross-class ability under the old system up til Stormblood was released (assuming you unlocked CNJ and levelled it), alas not many players bothered equipping it due to not being able to cast it during battle (due to CNJ/WHM having a trait that allowed them to do so). I still did though as it did come in handy from time to time (such as coming across a low level player KO'd in a FATE or during a levequest, and thus also helpful for working on the 'Kindness of Strangers' achievements). Having a PLD-specific raise spell would be nice to have, but I doubt it will be added.

Just a side note here... every paladin had access to raise back then. Raise is a level 12 ability, and to unlock paladin, you had to raise conjurer to level 15.

Having a non-combat raise seems fine for paladins, but giving combat raise to a tank seems like it would be impossible to balance around.

PLD already has the generally best support of all the Tanks, and pretty good DPS to go along with it (less defensive cooldowns but HG is still busted). Giving them Raise back just seems like overkill.

All the “it would be broken for a tank to have raise comments” where have I heard those before? Oh right, it would be broken for a caster to have a cure spell! But then RDM came out and DIDN’T break the game, shocker.

Nothing wrong with a tank having a raise if it fits their kit and PLD being a tank with white magic fits it perfectly. Of course it would have to be balanced around PLD having it, hence why OP suggested making it like BLM’s flare have a minimum cost of let’s say 5k mp, but consumes all of your mp even if you have more than the required amount making it something that you won’t use regularly due to the massive dps hit, but could very well save a run.

Battle raise is something I’ve personally wanted for PLD since 2.0, it feels right to me that the person who is most likely to survive be able to get others back up. There have been plenty of times I’ve had to solo dungeons or trials as PLD where everyone else died and I’m thinking to myself “sure would be nice to get the others back into the fight” and I don’t doubt they’re all thinking it would be nice to be back in the fight too.

It's already a balance problem for caster DPS to have a raise, more than a few voices would rather it be gone. PLD doesn't need a raise.

Originally Posted by FirstnameLastname

Uh, no. That is all.

I'm really glad some of you aren't responsible for developing this game. You always shoot down ideas and either don't state a reason or give a really poor one. It almost feels like you thrive on negativity. But OP, I'm in full support of giving PLD raise back (because we already used to have it).