Not Happy With The New Changes

[EphPhoen]

Forgive me but that sounds a lot like "I invented this freeze mage rotation and no one's going to tell me it's bad!"

You should ask yourself WHY you're leaning so hard on skills with high failure rates when skills that don't have that problem are readily available.

Hasty Touch and Rapid Synth have their uses at very low levels (mostly Hasty, probably less so now though), but they obsolete relatively quickly. By the time you're level 40 or so, you shouldn't even be considering them. Certainly by 80 they should have a thick layer of dust on your hotbars if they're even still there.

And forgive me, but that sounds awfully elitist of you. "Oh, hey! *I* stopped using that at high level so you should, too." Didn't say my way was the only way, but that was the fun of the system: there wasn't one way to the solution. I chose MY particular way for CP conservation, as well as more chances in the event of failure. And it could reliably get me to hq in the event of good or excellent conditions not popping up--which, as it has been for me, they show up less on high level crafts (might be different for you; if so, kudos). It went:

Inner Quiet
Waste Not II
Steady Hand II
Patient Touch
Patient Touch
Hasty Touch II ~ till end of SHII or Standard Touch if, by that point, I was close to having the bar maxed out.

If the quality was really high--or the RNG really hated me that round--then I had a Master's Mend/Manipulation and could use that to finish up. Then it would be SHII, HTII till I was finished or on the last two of SHII to which I would use Byregot's Blessing to make up for the quality I didn't get--usually coupling with Great Strides. Once quality is done, finish up with Careful Synthesis III.

[Niadissa]

And forgive me, but that sounds awfully elitist of you. "Oh, hey! *I* stopped using that at high level so you should, too." Didn't say my way was the only way, but that was the fun of the system: there wasn't one way to the solution. I chose MY particular way for CP conservation, as well as more chances in the event of failure. And it could reliably get me to hq in the event of good or excellent conditions not popping up--which, as it has been for me, they show up less on high level crafts (might be different for you; if so, kudos). It went:

Inner Quiet
Waste Not II
Steady Hand II
Patient Touch
Patient Touch
Hasty Touch II ~ till end of SHII or Standard Touch if, by that point, I was close to having the bar maxed out.

If the quality was really high--or the RNG really hated me that round--then I had a Master's Mend/Manipulation and could use that to finish up. Then it would be SHII, HTII till I was finished or on the last two of SHII to which I would use Byregot's Blessing to make up for the quality I didn't get--usually coupling with Great Strides. Once quality is done, finish up with Careful Synthesis III.

So, let me get this straight. You are complaining that your way is heavy with RNG. Someone posted a macro that does not use said RNG abilities, and you are still complaining.

You are refusing help, and saying it is to hard, and then when someone called you on it, you decided that the appropriate response was to call them an elitist.

As they said before, you are just like the so called "ice" mage refusing to use anything but ice spells.

At this point, being given the information, if you continue to use hasty touch and/or rapid synthesis because "that's how i've always done it" you have no one but yourself to blame for the issues you are having.

[EphPhoen]

So, let me get this straight. You are complaining that your way is heavy with RNG. Someone posted a macro that does not use said RNG abilities, and you are still complaining.

You are refusing help, and saying it is to hard, and then when someone called you on it, you decided that the appropriate response was to call them an elitist.

As they said before, you are just like the so called "ice" mage refusing to use anything but ice spells.

At this point, being given the information, if you continue to use hasty touch and/or rapid synthesis because "that's how i've always done it" you have no one but yourself to blame for the issues you are having.

-looks up at high horse- -sips chai- First off, homey, reading comprehension would help you out immensely. I never said "too hard," I said I agreed with one of the posters I didn't like the direction it was going--specifically in reference to the loss of Steady Hand. I didn't ask for help or to be given a way nor refuse any offered. Go back up and READ and show me where I said that specifically. I'll wait. =P

Secondly, you obviously don't know your skills. While, yes, if you were to use Hasty Touch or Patient Touch without anything, you have a 50-60% chance of success, Steady Hand II bumps that up by 30%. What's that? 80-90%! Oh my, that means only a 10-20% chance of failure! Not so heavy with RNG, now, is it? =P

Thirdly, I never said of any actions I was or wasn't taking, so take putting words in my mouth and shove it, most sincerely. ^_^ Obviously, I'm going to have to figure out something else. If you gonna come at someone rude, at least come correct. kthx bye. =P

[Callinon]

Secondly, you obviously don't know your skills. While, yes, if you were to use Hasty Touch or Patient Touch without anything, you have a 50-60% chance of success, Steady Hand II bumps that up by 30%. What's that? 80-90%! Oh my, that means only a 10-20% chance of failure! Not so heavy with RNG, now, is it? =P

Clearly you've never had a gathering chance at 99% only to fail it five times in a row.

Reported percentages in this game aren't great measures of success rate. I expect anything below 100% to have at least a 10% chance of failure, and that's a lot higher than you're giving it credit for.

But hey, it's your money... waste away.

[EphPhoen]

Clearly you've never had a gathering chance at 99% only to fail it five times in a row.

Reported percentages in this game aren't great measures of success rate. I expect anything below 100% to have at least a 10% chance of failure, and that's a lot higher than you're giving it credit for.

But hey, it's your money... waste away.

Uh...you just quoted me where I SAID 10%. Wtf, dude. Also, yes, yes I have. I've had the quality with a supposedly 2% chance of not coming out hq and it fail. Multiple times. I know the score. XD