How do we feel about tank damage right now?

[Samsta]

That argument falls a bit flat when tanks have all but become buffier DPS. Gunbreaker practically epitomizes this as does Warrior. This tier is especially bad for how little mitigation you actually need outside Titan, which is why tanks notice how low their damage contribution is compared to what it was. And let's be honest here. I suspect the only reason this change occurred is SE didn't like the idea bad players who died would be out-damaged by tanks and feel bad about it.

Personally, I'm not bothered by it enough to complain one way or another. I do think tanks should be above healers if only because a healer's DPS "rotation" is two buttons—one of which they press every 30 seconds. Tanks actually have a rotation. So it's a bit unfair GNB has to jump through hoops to deal comparable damage to a WHM spamming Glare and occasionally Dia.



Blame encounter design for that. The playerbase merely takes advantage of the tools provided. Presently, there is no reason to over mitigate things at the expensive of your damage regardless of the role you play. For instance, Levi does so little damage, tanks can straight up waste CDs eating the first Temporary Current because it doesn't matter. Likewise, doing things like stacking flares isn't just for tank DPS but the entire party since damage trumps everything in this game. Allowing your tanks to get 3-5 more GCDs while you only trade an Energy Drain for a Soil is a much better exchange.

Temporary current will kill a tank. It doesn't even sacrifice the uptime of tanks to dodge it correctly so I dunno why you would do something like that.

[ForteNightshade]

Temporary current will kill a tank. It doesn't even sacrifice the uptime of tanks to dodge it correctly so I dunno why you would do something like that.

No, it won't. You can survive quite easily with CDs. You also will lose uptime when Levi splits the platform in two. But don't take my word for it. See for yourself.

So the solution is to advocate for an even greater dumbing-down and homogenization of gameplay in lieu of advocating for a return to greater complexity?

I wouldn't call increasing tank damage back to what it was as "dumbing-down." And one could argue tanks and healer DPS was homogenized because it's all essentially the same output whereas before the former did more.

Regardless, people have asked for more complexity. The two aren't mutually exclusive nor does what I said still not apply. Tanks have to put in more effort for equal to or less damage than healers spamming two buttons. That being said, we're betting on what horse the devs may actually listen to. While I'd love for boss positioning and debuffs to be something tanks contribute, it's been six years. If they were going to do it. They would have already.