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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    I am not saying you shouldn't use WAR, if you enjoy it that's on you. However, in an optimization sense, what does WAR bring to the table that would make a group pick it over an of the other choices? Holmgang? This isn't Leviathan. Its just an akward choice now. Its the same as DRK back in SB, which is where WAR has fallen to in ShB. The least played tank by a large margin where people struggle to find upsides to it over the other options.
    There's only 2 tank slots. Somebody's gotta be last place. For the first time in about 5 years it's WAR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mavrias View Post
    There's only 2 tank slots. Somebody's gotta be last place. For the first time in about 5 years it's WAR.
    Dunno about 5 years there. ARR there was only PLD/WAR and PLD was stronger. SB first raid tier for awhile WAR was still kinda... wonky? And PLD was considered the king while some would bring in DRK because WAR and DRK were somewhat close for a few months. Then WAR got the IR/Beserk change because they had inconistant damage (personally I thought this was the worst idea utterly gutting the job almost). So lets say... 3.5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    Dunno about 5 years there. ARR there was only PLD/WAR and PLD was stronger. SB first raid tier for awhile WAR was still kinda... wonky? And PLD was considered the king while some would bring in DRK because WAR and DRK were somewhat close for a few months. Then WAR got the IR/Beserk change because they had inconistant damage (personally I thought this was the worst idea utterly gutting the job almost). So lets say... 3.5 years.
    5 years ago was midway through ARR, PLD was stronger in some cases but by that point WAR was equally liked and in other cases edged out PLD by a bit. WAR was preferred in HW along with DRK with PLD getting laughed out of the park. WAR was wonky at the start of SB sure, but still greatly preferred over DRK in deltascape and then it never got better for DRK going forward. When people brought DRK its cause their tank liked DRK, not because it was the preferred tank according to the community like PLD and WAR. WAR was top dog in HW and SB and equal with its only competitor for half of ARR. Thats 5 years.
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    Soo... 3.5 years? According to your logic then PLD has been top dog for even longer. Ignore ARR when you only have 2 options for two slots lets focus the argument on when they had competition.
    HW? Yeah WAR was always played. SB? Beginning first 6 months until Sigma it was kinda split between DRK/WAR then WAR stayed top after the change. I mean why isn't DRK/GNB the top dogs and PLD at the bottom? See the slippery slope of "well WAR doesn't need to be the king all the time". No it doesn't but that doesn't mean it should be the worst either. Healthy discussion on small changes to WAR until 6.0 where they will likely give WAR a full rework (cause if they don't I'll go into a comma playing WAR)
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarretOblivion View Post
    Soo... 3.5 years? According to your logic then PLD has been top dog for even longer. Ignore ARR when you only have 2 options for two slots lets focus the argument on when they had competition.
    HW? Yeah WAR was always played. SB? Beginning first 6 months until Sigma it was kinda split between DRK/WAR then WAR stayed top after the change. I mean why isn't DRK/GNB the top dogs and PLD at the bottom? See the slippery slope of "well WAR doesn't need to be the king all the time". No it doesn't but that doesn't mean it should be the worst either. Healthy discussion on small changes to WAR until 6.0 where they will likely give WAR a full rework (cause if they don't I'll go into a comma playing WAR)
    Youre mistaking coming last for being bad. Theyre not the same. Just that from a balance standpoint, unless they make everything literally the same, someones gonna be fourth place. Thats not a bad thing. It just is a thing.

    I dont agree that WAR needs potency buffs. Quite frankly i dont play it anymore just because its not fun to me, not because of the damage. It hasnt really been fun to play for me since HW. But thats a fundamental gameplay flow that they seem to be actively pushing war away from.
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