"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[Shougun]

So anybody know if they are killing our levels back to 1 and letting us keep gear and stuff like most games that offer NG+ ?
If so are we still going to be able to play with ppl that are not in NG+1-10 ? Like if I wana invite normal world buddies to a NG+ dungeon? Or are they leaving us in the normal world and just flipping our msq completion from 1 to 0 ?

Seems more like you will keep your gear and levels and get to do that content again, unlike new game+ of single player games the difficulty wont really be adjusted and it's probable that there wont be many if any changes to the experience (like sometimes in NG+ more story/optional bosses are added). There will be some ARR changes, which is why that portion is delayed from the first release of the system, so technically that might feel a bit new/fresh from how we remember it (but I meant new specifically in relationship to using NG+, like sometimes games add some new piece of content because they can- or more extreme examples in Nier lol).

At the moment it seems best to see NG+ explicitly for the ability to experience the story again on the same character, with no other benefit. No new content (items, bosses, story), no rewards, and no difficulty increase (in fact it's probably going to be easier because instanced content is synced and not noted for increased in difficulty). More info could easily change some of those statements though~!

So bit further away from a single player new game plus concept, but it'll let you repeat old content if you wanted to enjoy some part of the story again. Of course things open for change as we get more info or as players request changes.

[Mhaeric]

So anybody know if they are killing our levels back to 1 and letting us keep gear and stuff like most games that offer NG+ ?
If so are we still going to be able to play with ppl that are not in NG+1-10 ? Like if I wana invite normal world buddies to a NG+ dungeon? Or are they leaving us in the normal world and just flipping our msq completion from 1 to 0 ?

NG+ is a bit of a misnomer. I'm 99% certain the latter, although it wouldn't change your permanent story completion stat. I.e. it would just unlock the starting MSQ quest for the chapter that you selected and you would be able to do them as you are until the end of that chapter at which point you could select a different chapter. Scripted battles will just have their normal level sync. For dungeons, if they still require that you run it once during your revisit you would just queue for it as normal on your character as they are now. I.e. joining via duty finder, setting up a premade, or running a solo/duo unsynced run.

[Opie]

Thank you for the reply it clears a few things up. I'm not much on the single player side of things in my experience with division div2 and dark souls you drag a low lvl friend around in a NG+ environment and they generally get a case of seepage so I was a tad worried lol

[Nemmar]

I do love the irony. Now people who fancy this feature and never cared about the EXP gains are just yes-men ignoring the ample pushback despite only the second post, which now boasts 53 likes, saying:



And that's only one post. Meanwhile, your post on that same page as the highest like count from the opposing side with only 18.

Normally, this would be fine. We all are entitled to our opinions. Except... apparently not, according you. Because anyone who dares support this feature without EXP is simply kissing up to SE. If I'm to be honest, you know very well your stance isn't the majority and that bothers you for some reason.

Honestly i'm done with such petty replies.

If you have a good reason why the quests shouldn't give xp, let me know. If not, move along.

[Tsalmaveth]

She doesn't have to move along. At all. EVER.

They don't give exp because the devs decided they shouldn't. That is not what they wanted this mode to be for. Taadaaaaa

It isn't a petty reply, either? You just don't LIKE it.

[ForteNightshade]

Honestly i'm done with such petty replies.

If you have a good reason why the quests shouldn't give xp, let me know. If not, move along.

Oh, so now opposing replies are petty? A tab dismissive isn't it? But no. It couldn't possibly be that. After all, you insisted only our posts did that and never yours!

But since you asked, I already posted my explanation why NG+ couldn't reward EXP. You chose to ignore on your crusade.

Please explain how this thread proves you're right when the highest liked posts—of which there are several—argue against it? While I normally attribute little to likes, in a discussion about whether you "like" a feature or not. They are somewhat relevant.

Putting aside ARR, you're forgetting how allowing repeat EXP gains on every MSQ quest renders almost every other EXP avenue obsolete. Just doing the Shadowbringer quests from 70-71 nets you 10,080,000 EXP. For comparison sake, this is more than even the MSQ Roulette offers at the equivalent level. And you could skip every cut scene, making it take no more than a half hour if even that. Basically, New Game Plus becomes the best EXP option by a mile. Highest EXP rewards per time spent, no chance for wipe or slow downs save your own. Why would I even touch other content for leveling?

As for denying others a feature they could enjoy. People who want to experience the story again will welcome this feature because EXP gains were never their desire in the first place. The only people this "hurts" are those who hoped for a cheap and easy leveling alternative where they wouldn't even watch the cut scenes, thus defeating the entire point. Simply put, New Game+ wasn't designed for you much in the same capacity Ultimate is designed exclusively for raiders.

I'll reiterate what I posted from earlier. The first twenty one quests (70-71) awards 10,060,00 Million EXP. This is more than the MSQ Roulette at a comparable level. In fact, it's nearly the equivalent Mt. Gulg offers. If you skipped every cut scene, it'd likely take less than a half hour, thus making NG+ the best leveling method by a landslide. And you could then restart and get that 10M+ all over again with no limitations.

Put simply, it would be abused. Good thing this thread clearly shows people fancy this feature despite it not offering EXP even if you insist otherwise.

[dragonkyn20]

I guess you never heard of the resident evil series then.This was back on ps1 so it might be before your time but it was games like that that popularised it.

The classic Resident Evil titles did NOT have a new game + feature or different difficulties. All they had were special weapons and side modes you could unlock for beating the game by either clearing it under a certain time frame or by getting a certain rank.

If you're going to refute my point, try better examples.

Also, I'm probably the same age as you or older since I was born in 89. So good job bringing my age into your argument.

[Mhaeric]

You know you feel old when people young enough to be your kid are playing the I'm older than you card.

[dragonkyn20]

You know you feel old when people young enough to be your kid are playing the I'm older than you card.

It's still a stupid thing to bring up. It adds absolutely nothing to the topic and if they happen to be wrong about that point, it makes them look like an idiot.

[Schan]

I'm going to be using it even though there are no rewards. I get to kick Heavensward's behinds again.