"New game plus - quests will have no rewards..."

[Melichoir]

End of the day, as been stressed in this thread a few times, is that the devs never said youd get exp or rewards for NG+. It was always marketed as the ability to replay content using your current character. Thats it. Thats what most threads on here, reddit, and other sources expressed regarding it. If people had the assumption it had exp and are bummed that it might not, thats on them and not the Devs. Im not sure what more there has to be said regarding this.

[Shougun]

I guess you never heard of the resident evil series then.This was back on ps1 so it might be before your time but it was games like that that popularised it.

https://www.gamecrate.com/brief-history-new-game/20642

Many people attribute the creation of New Game + to Chrono Trigger, and for good reason, as Chrono Trigger was the first game to use the term “New Game +.” It was not, however, the first game to feature a New Game + mode.

The origins of the New Game + actually date back to the arcade era. After a player had beaten all the content a game had to offer, the game would usually start over again in order to allow them to keep playing on a single quarter. Many older arcade games would start over with little change, but games like Pac-Man and Donkey Kong would slightly alter their difficult on a subsequent playthroughs, usually by increasing the speed.

That was a fun whirlwind lol. If they knew Chrono trigger they're old enough for resident evil, but at the same time new game plus has been used for difficulty from the earlier renditions and all that.

People can keep going of course. . . just thought to share that bit lol.

My take away here is nothing wrong with asking for difficulty options, rewards, or discussing if those rewards may cause issues, and there were a lot of people who thought the system would have rewards (at least from reading the forums) but at the same time SE didn't give an impression that would be part of it especially since NG+ is rather unusual for an MMO (so it would be good to have less expectation for such a new concept). I think it would be okay to be disappointed and ask for something extra/change, through normal dialog methods though lol. And of course recognizing there is a whole group of people who would have literally paid gil to new game+ just for story, so avoiding objective disappointment for subjective disappointment would make the discussion much smoother lol.

Anyway.. have fun~

[Metalwrath]

https://www.gamecrate.com/brief-history-new-game/20642



That was a fun whirlwind lol. If they knew Chrono trigger they're old enough for resident evil, but at the same time new game plus has been used for difficulty from the earlier rendentions and all that.

People can keep going of course. . . just thought to share that bit lol.

My take away here is nothing wrong with asking for reward, or discussing if those rewards may cause issues, and there were a lot of people who thought the system would have rewards (at least from reading the forums) but at the same time SE didn't give an impression that would be part of it especially since NG+ is rather unusual for an MMO (so it would be good to have less expectation for such a new concept).

Anyway.. have fun~

It's not uncommon for many ff players to know of chrono trigger due to it being from the same genre of games and comeing from the same company.
Also a lot of the speed runs and hard version runs that got popular in chrono trigger werent until well after the release.That games popularity jumped a lot when emulators became a thing and people could boost game speed etc.
Games like resident evil popularised unlocking hard modes when they were still current games on their consoles which led to a lot more games releasing hard modes in the future.

[SieyaM]

What is drawing me to New Game+ is being able to just run the story again without getting off on all these side quests and things to try and fill levels. Playing my first job through ARR I remember having to try and meet level requirements for dungeons before I could run them and continue. There also won't be the months of down time between content since you can run them all together if you like.

[Callinon]

What is drawing me to New Game+ is being able to just run the story again without getting off on all these side quests and things to try and fill levels. Playing my first job through ARR I remember having to try and meet level requirements for dungeons before I could run them and continue. There also won't be the months of down time between content since you can run them all together if you like.

Yeah that's about all I can think to use it for too. I was thinking maybe at the end of the expansion, using NG+ to do everything in one nice continuous run that's not broken up by a patch cycle.

Without exp rewards, there seems to be literally no other reason to use the feature at all.

[ICountFrom0]

If I can't get the achivements for doing the quests paths from the other 2 cities, and I can't get access to the other 4 pieces of unique eqipment from those low level quests, what's the point?

[Mhaeric]

If I can't get the achivements for doing the quests paths from the other 2 cities, and I can't get access to the other 4 pieces of unique eqipment from those low level quests, what's the point?

Nothing for you. In which case simply don't do it.

[Tsalmaveth]

If I can't get the achivements for doing the quests paths from the other 2 cities, and I can't get access to the other 4 pieces of unique eqipment from those low level quests, what's the point?

ARR isn't even implemented at this time anyway? But yeah... I guess if what you're wanting is the beginning equipment only... then there is no point for you, since this feature is to see the story, not collect gear. At least as it is currently being put into the game. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Opie]

So anybody know if they are killing our levels back to 1 and letting us keep gear and stuff like most games that offer NG+ ?
If so are we still going to be able to play with ppl that are not in NG+1-10 ? Like if I wana invite normal world buddies to a NG+ dungeon? Or are they leaving us in the normal world and just flipping our msq completion from 1 to 0 ?

[Mhaeric]

So anybody know if they are killing our levels back to 1 and letting us keep gear and stuff like most games that offer NG+ ?
If so are we still going to be able to play with ppl that are not in NG+1-10 ? Like if I wana invite normal world buddies to a NG+ dungeon? Or are they leaving us in the normal world and just flipping our msq completion from 1 to 0 ?

NG+ is a bit of a misnomer. I'm 99% certain the latter, although it wouldn't change your permanent story completion stat. I.e. it would just unlock the starting MSQ quest for the chapter that you selected and you would be able to do them as you are until the end of that chapter at which point you could select a different chapter. Scripted battles will just have their normal level sync. For dungeons, if they still require that you run it once during your revisit you would just queue for it as normal on your character as they are now. I.e. joining via duty finder, setting up a premade, or running a solo/duo unsynced run.