Quote Originally Posted by Zerathor View Post
Job strength aside, the raw statistical chance of that group forming is rather slim. That's a 2/105 chance if the party just randomly formed, out of all the 210 possible combinations of 4 unique dps in a party. 1.9%.
Im really surprised you made it three more pages without someone battling this logic a little more.

You make it sound like because of this statistic we shouldn't expect to see this comp clear too frequently anyways via random composition. By that same exact measure then why in the Hells do we see BLM, DRG, MNK, MCH/BRD so bloody frequently then? flipping it on its head the fact that these two compositions are so overly common should be a pretty clear demonstration of the the fact that these classes are sitting on top of the balance, regardless of the balance of dps necessary for a raid.

I'm sorry but I have a really hard time reading all this and not getting a little incensed, but Zerathor you really do come across as a BLM supremacist.

"And because we already saw Utility Jobs: The Expansion™ and its sequel Utility Jobs 2: This Time Without Double Range Physical™." Stop looking for bloody reparation. Not only is this a gross satirical exaggeration of past events but it's you being a straight butt hurt snob about them. The state of the game in the past DOESNT EVEN FREAKING MATTER. if we want balance now we need to talk about balance with only current metrics and team comps in mind.

On the original subject. No way a 4 DNC party could ever clear, probably even not now Id guess unless some of them had E4 weapons. I doubt they'd even have made it past E2S

And if qualified with Unique Jobs and Standard comp AND week 1 clear.
I very much think a SAM, NIN, DNC, SMN/RDM comp would have struggled exceptionally hard to clear E4S if it was in fact even possible. I personally would have put that down as a challenge to pointlessly annoying to even attempt.