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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    4 of the first 10 clears with Overpowered jobs also got it on the slow enrage.
    I'm not disputing, more expressing sadness cuz my group got like, three back-to-back fast instances before we finally managed to get it on a fast enrage and commenting that the results are consistent with my outlook of the subject on page one.
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    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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    Jace Ossura
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    I'm not disputing, more expressing sadness cuz my group got like, three back-to-back fast instances before we finally managed to get it on a fast enrage and commenting that the results are consistent with my outlook of the subject on page one.
    The slow/fast instance thing sort of bothers me. I had a Levi Ex while in a clear party where the enrage just decided to...'skip' the animation.

    Bar finished, then 999999999999 while he started his dialgoue about how the fight ended.

    Friends of mine also ask me how many quietus there are in Voidwalker at the end, and apparently it can vary there too.

    Good job SE.
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  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kejara View Post
    This back and forth isn't really beneficial to any of us. The topic was can any combination clear? The answer to the OP's question was difficult to provide because the question was vague and needed additional qualifiers. In an ever progressing game, time is important attribute to include in your question. The question should have been, can any unique combination of DPS clear Eden savage content in week one when it is competitive. The mathematics would suggest that based on the later enrage DPS checks, that no, not all unique combinations could clear on week one. The next question would be whether we (the community) think this was okay or not. This could be debated until the cows come home because its a matter of opinion. We all have a vested interest in our preferred jobs. Clearly, Zerathor is in support of BLM's present position and I don't blame him. BLM is the best it has ever been and I'm not talking about just DPS. The job just feels better all around. Anybody who prefers to play that job wants to protect it. My current preference is RDM and I'd like to see it gain some minor DPS buffs. I would like its rDPS to be less than 10% but greater than 7% percent disparity from the present BLM. Presently, across all of Eden savage and all percentiles there is approximately 13-15% difference in rDPS between a BLM and RDM. I just want it closed a little bit so I don't feel the temptation to jump jobs to BLM, a job I like but don't prefer, so that I'm not holding my team back. I personally, don't want to see any of the high performing jobs, BLM included, nerfed or changed. People are happy with them and there's no reason to take that from them. The question is, will they (the top three) still be happy if the disparity is lessened a bit for the presently under performing jobs (in my opinion)?
    i would say for no dupes if a party comp of War/Drk/Ast/Sch/Dnc/Rdm/Nin/Smn were all playing at a 95-100% percentile week 1 and cannot clear all 4 fights then potency buffs are in order, SE's goal was to try and get rid of meta(As futile as that is) parties and if it is impossible for the weakest comp to clear everything then they have undertuned jobs that need to be brought up. I would have no clue on the math of the above but from everything going on and personal experience i would say the above comp probably wouldn't have been able to beat E4S week 1.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    The slow/fast instance thing sort of bothers me. I had a Levi Ex while in a clear party where the enrage just decided to...'skip' the animation.

    Bar finished, then 999999999999 while he started his dialgoue about how the fight ended.

    Friends of mine also ask me how many quietus there are in Voidwalker at the end, and apparently it can vary there too.

    Good job SE.
    Yeah, I'm told it's always existed but this tier it's definitely more noticeable. At the very least, now it's noticeable enough to enter the collective consciousness, so maybe Square will be asked to address it in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Packetdancer View Post
    I either buy my own sandwich or I end up with pork-nostrils.

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