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    A good example of the problem (imho): Roulettes aren't end game content. If they would drop relevant gear I would count them as such but not right now. WoW has made it so that they increase the iLvl of the dropped gear from normal/heroic/mythics from time to time so doing them gives you a chance to get some upgrades instead of just accumulating currency to buy that gear. I think the tomestone grind is really one of the weaknesses of FFXIV. At least the expert roulettes should get some relevant drops around you overall iLvl.
    I am not capping tomestones anymore, this means I am behind on iLvl but I don't care anymore. It's too much of the same stuff day after day, week after week. Even the new expert roulette dungeons didn't change that since they are more of the same, almost just made for the tomestone grind. They need more ways to earn that gear. Not easier or faster, just different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Honestly...You have make a valid point....and for some im not sure why it has taken so long to accept the truth..this isnt final fantasy...its casual fantasy. Thank you removing my blind fold
    Yeah, because FF franchise is reputed for its overwhelming difficulty.

    Quote Originally Posted by kartana View Post
    Roulettes aren't end game content. If they would drop relevant gear I would count them as such but not right now. WoW has made it so that they increase the iLvl of the dropped gear from normal/heroic/mythics from time to time so doing them gives you a chance to get some upgrades instead of just accumulating currency to buy that gear. I think the tomestone grind is really one of the weaknesses of FFXIV. At least the expert roulettes should get some relevant drops around you overall iLvl.
    They already drop gear. Those gear are usefull for anybody joining the engame late, they are the easiest way to get good enough gear to get the ILV to gain access to raid while grinding low tier tome. The 3 first drop only accessory because you get a free AF for getting lv80 and complete the role quest. They serve the purpose of "you can skip as much tomestone cap as you want/need, you'll alway have a solution to caught up with other fast".
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    Last edited by Nariel; 08-14-2019 at 11:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartana View Post
    Roulettes aren't end game content. If they would drop relevant gear I would count them as such but not right now.
    You mean... the roulettes that give you tomestones that you can exchange for the highest / second highest item level currently available in the game? How is that not relevant gear? What?


    Sigh this is a complicated discussion from my point of view. Each person defines their endgame. I really like trials and dungeons.. and a bunch of other things. Do i want more savage stuff? yes. Am I ok with not having as much as i want to? also yes. Considering i am somewhat terrible at self control when it comes to certain things I am actually glad I don't have the opportunity of dumping every waking moment (that i'm not working that is) throwing myself at difficult fights. I enjoy that there is an end to it and it sort of nudges me to enjoy other things, be it pvping or chocobo racing. I greatly enjoy those things however since they don't directly contribute to seeing my character's stats increasing I tend to not put so much time into them. If I could just do Savage every day, all day long I would probably never touch on other parts of content that i also find fun. Or I would never discover that I actually enjoy the Feast, or Chocobo Racing or Triple Triad, or hunting for glamours, or helping new players, or crafting/gathering or just go "outside" and take screenshots of pretty places and of my character.

    I like the fact they try to give a little bit to everyone. yes that does create a problem for people who just like this one thing and it will never enough for them. I think we all lose out more when you have a lot of one thing over having a little of many things. There are things i have tried and i didn't really like them but i still appreciate that they're there. Everyone is different and I see they try to cater to a lot of people but implementing several different things. This is how the game grows. Who knows, if the demand is high enough they will invest in sprinkling a bit more of an already existent type of content which brings me to another point. You need to realize you are, like myself, a minority.

    I feel for you OP and people like yourself. It must really suck to have just this one thing you like and feel like it's too little to keep you engaged but on the other hand... is it really healthy to want to stay glued to the game all the time?
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