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  1. #9341
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    Lore is a bad one in this case because we already know that they exist. And as soon as something exists, its not that big of a stretch to believe that one individual of the whole group decided to leave their home to save the world.

    I do wanna talk about about the lore that shadowbringer gave about the Viis.

    So in the sidequests they mention that a male killed the beast and helped a female but went out of sight because the WoL came. There is also a side quest where we have to get things for a newborn baby, which is seemingly something that has not happend for a time. And we also learn that there are maybe a handful of males left thanks to the flood and the sineaters..

    So my question is: Why are they not trying to make more babies? I know that they get older than most races but would their cycle really be that much worse?

    The females might not even have much of a problem because we do know that other Viis are born outside the village (Lyna for example) thus either those are all males that left, or they can reproduce with other races...but for the males this situation is very bad. They are already less because of the low birthrate and then they have a harsher life and the flood happened too..wouldnt it make more sense for them to try and make more babies thus increasing the chance to have more males too.

    I mean even if they have longer birth cycles they should still have way more children running around..but seemingly that one baby girl is the first birth in quite some time..when other races (or humans) can give birth every year or two then they should be at least be able to give birth every five to ten years?

    What are your thoughts? (I know that I might be overthinking it but maybe this gives us more to talk about)
    You won't see any Viis for some time if carefully read the quest line. Yes, we saw a male(Don't need spoiler for it, all through this thread) in a sense, but from what they were saying, the men are about all wiped out due to the flood, so even seeing one was a miracle. As for why no children around, you don't see them anywhere in FFXIV hardly lol. So, maybe there are kids bouncing around somewhere hidden, who knows. Lyna and the others are what are outcast, not born outside the clans there but left. But what is confusing is they call her a Viera when she should be a Viis in the wiki, odd that.

    Who knows though, maybe there's a shard where men are abundant and female are rare, but for now the men are no where in the source or the shard of light.
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  2. #9342
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    Sei_Konsetsu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    Rathalos and Regalia are a bit of a stretch to fit into the game
    Even with magitek steam punk stuff regalia is extremely different compared to everything in this game

    That said lore was not the reason male viera and female hroth are left out and it will never be the reason devs will not include them
    Have you done Castrum Meridianum? They have what looks like a spaceship fireing down at you near the end..

    We have fire breathing dragon like things already in the game, so why does Rathalos stick out to you?



    This is something in the game. How is it that this can exist, but not a car......?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    The argument and the Rebuttal is...."If THIS can exist, why can't male Viera?"
    That and when Lore Comes up, people bring Up 1.0 and how the Roe females and Miqo's Males formerly had lore that Similarly suggests The genders couldn't exist/be playable...but then 2.0 the lore got changed to include them. "If that can happen to them, Why Not Male Viera?"
    Where as I am ok with Male viera, it took the world being blasted by Bahamut and being reborn ( a whole new director for the game) before Roe and Miqote got male and female counterparts because who ever was doing it before was just following Final Fantasy XI races setup.
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  3. #9343
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    Quote Originally Posted by Komarimono View Post
    You won't see any Viis for some time if carefully read the quest line. Yes, we saw a male(Don't need spoiler for it, all through this thread) in a sense, but from what they were saying, the men are about all wiped out due to the flood, so even seeing one was a miracle. As for why no children around, you don't see them anywhere in FFXIV hardly lol. So, maybe there are kids bouncing around somewhere hidden, who knows. Lyna and the others are what are outcast, not born outside the clans there but left. But what is confusing is they call her a Viera when she should be a Viis in the wiki, odd that.

    Who knows though, maybe there's a shard where men are abundant and female are rare, but for now the men are no where in the source or the shard of light.
    I believe if you talk to her, she states that she was raised by G'raha Tia, her mother died when they were fleeing. So she took her child from the woods and ran for safety. There's another Vii who's part of the Crystarium gathering/crafting quests - she randomly falls asleep and can hear her say 'father is that you?' - which hints that she may indeed have seen her father and that the males may have some sort of bond with their children. But yeah, the males have been wiped out and there's only a handful left and in their minds they have better things to do than having more children - odd I know. I don't think they're capable of having hybrid children either, the only time it did happen is when a god knocked up a Viera.

    I'm hoping they can spring back from this. I'm really hoping that the will be a way from people from the source and from the first to travel back and forth, not just our WoL, so the Vii can repopulate. The hilarity I want to see is if we finally get male Viera's if the poor lads get hit on constantly to see if they're game to become 'daddy' of a whole generation of little buns. Just 'ermmmmmmmmm, Y'shtola, please save me.'

    There's probably a lot more males on the source than there is on the first. They just stay in the forest and have no real desire to leave, hopefully, this changes. We need a big bad to have them move on out.
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  4. #9344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sei_Konsetsu View Post
    Have you done Castrum Meridianum? They have what looks like a spaceship fireing down at you near the end..

    We have fire breathing dragon like things already in the game, so why does Rathalos stick out to you?



    This is something in the game. How is it that this can exist, but not a car......?



    Where as I am ok with Male viera, it took the world being blasted by Bahamut and being reborn ( a whole new director for the game) before Roe and Miqote got male and female counterparts because who ever was doing it before was just following Final Fantasy XI races setup.
    you put Rathalos next to all the other dragons in this game and he sticks out like a sore thumb anyway
    and Regalia also is very different compared to everything we have seen in castrum and everything garleans

    also the fact i have played Monster hunter for a very long time and seeing Rathalos just in a FF universe is odd
    not that i hate it (its like the only mount i use)
    Rathalos is just a very different looking Wyvern compared to the FF Designs
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  5. #9345
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    If the first gets fixed like they are trying to do in Eden. All of the empty will become hospitable, this is a perfect time to repopulate for all the races, Viera inculded.
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  6. #9346
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    Quote Originally Posted by dustdjinn View Post
    If the first gets fixed like they are trying to do in Eden. All of the empty will become hospitable, this is a perfect time to repopulate for all the races, Viera inculded.
    I'm more of the thinking that the empty would just be an unpopulated "eden". An untouched wilderness, that the people of Norvrandt would have to repopulate, probably over the course of hundreds upon thousands of years. We are terraforming or restoring the land itself not the people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'm more of the thinking that the empty would just be an unpopulated "eden". An untouched wilderness, that the people of Norvrandt would have to repopulate, probably over the course of hundreds upon thousands of years. We are terraforming or restoring the land itself not the people.
    My face when the first is going to look better than the source as it looks like the whole area will soon be lush and fertile land with everything in balance.
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  8. #9348
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    This artwork was posted as recently as today by korean artist @horu97. I would love this wild hairstyle to be available for both genders as well but with larger feathers similar to the pvp hairstyle the other races have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I'm more of the thinking that the empty would just be an unpopulated "eden". An untouched wilderness, that the people of Norvrandt would have to repopulate, probably over the course of hundreds upon thousands of years. We are terraforming or restoring the land itself not the people.
    but time moves differently on the first so the repopulation can be moved along quickly for us WOL. I am by no means saying this is what is gonna happen but its fun to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by official_coconut View Post
    This artwork was posted as recently as today by korean artist @horu97. I would love this wild hairstyle to be available for both genders as well but with larger feathers similar to the pvp hairstyle the other races have.

    That dude is aesthetic. He probably works out.



    Quote Originally Posted by dustdjinn View Post
    but time moves differently on the first so the repopulation can be moved along quickly for us WOL. I am by no means saying this is what is gonna happen but its fun to think about.
    I doesn't right now. I think I remember them saying time is moving about the same now at the start of ShB.
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