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    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    I do agree that it's easier because passive MP regen is increased and Lucid Dreaming is twice as strong now. But my point is that it's more punishing because when you mess up there are no outside bailouts. What basically happened is that Manashift and Refresh have been incorporated into our passive regen and Lucid Dreaming. It is now up to us to keep this level of regen up by paying attention to Lucid. Delaying or failing Lucid quite simply costs more than it did in SB. We can go round and round like this forever, but all you need to do is go back 1 month in time and look at all the threads complaining about MP regen to see how much people were relying on outside sources. You'll even find my posts saying that MP regen is fine and that all you need to do is keep Lucid rolling.



    I dumb them down because they are dumb. I don't want them because they were badly designed skills that came from 2.0 Arcanist, they were uninteresting and they were holding SCH back from evolving into its own job. Squeenix have made it abundantly clear that they do not want to add too many DPS abilities to healers. Therefore, I see it as a problem that you're asking for the old outdated abilities back instead of asking for new, more interesting ones.

    If we complain enough, there's a chance they will add something more to the healers. So if they do decide to add a new DPS spell in the future, I would much rather it be something that interacts with the Fairy Gauge instead of Miasma. That is why I will continue to emphasize how uninteresting our DPS abilities were.



    Embrace nerf was completely warranted. It was a free permanent Regen. Then Whispering Dawn. Of course it felt better to use, you could do it any time and it had zero cost. You could do up to ten of them in a 10 minute fight. Ten better versions of Medica II at no cost. Now? You have to clip a Broil, not sacrifice it. Unless of course you can get away with weaving it into the next Biolysis. Considering how strong Whispering Dawn still is, I'd say a clip is still pretty damn cheap.

    This is a good change for the sake of balance. Most of the changes they've done are good for the sake of balance and the future development of healers.
    If getting rid of them is justification for giving us something better, then they need to give us something better when they take them away. You do not go to the store and get a donut for free on the premise that you will pay them later, you give them the money and you get the donut then and there. It's the same concept here, would I mind more interesting variants of older dps abilities? absolutely not, it'd be nice to see. People have brought up giving SCH dots, but only being allowed to put up so many at once, with whatever combination you put on giving different debuffs to the enemies, and that sounds like a great idea I'd love to see in practice, but that's not something I could expect for 2 years minimum, but realistically, is never happening.

    Just saying "they are dumb" is not a justification, my argument was it was more to manage, ergo being more you could forget, making it feel better when you didn't forget and kept things up. Was it perfect? No, but it was better than what we have now, and unless they can actually give us something better, then I want what I had because it was better than what we have now.

    Clipping is only better if you have the ping for it, and that, again, feels terrible to do. Clipping will always feel terrible to do, even if it is the more optimal thing in a situation, it never feels right doing it. and WD is stronger than mediac II? since when? yeah, it has a higher potency, but it scales off fairy stats, not yours, and as such, is weaker. Testing it now, on my WHM at level 70, with all alliance raid gear (put my omega gear in my glam chest) medica II regen ticked more. Not to mention you can keep medica II up as much as you want, you could have it on the entire fight if you hated your MP that much, VS the 20 seconds every 60 seconds you can have WD up. Having fairy not tied to GCDs or oGCDs was not OP, because, again, the fairy itself was not OP. and the embrace nerf was not justified because it heals half of what it used to when everyone has more HP, I don't know what a 3k heal is going to do on a tank that has 115k+ hp, I'd have been okay if it stayed the same at around 6k for the sake of it not healing crazy absurd amounts. The entire point of the fairy is to save me and my co-healer some healing, to take some of the burden off of our shoulders, and with her having to be weaved in now, as well as just being less effective in general, she just doesn't anymore.
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    Last edited by Billythepancake; 08-10-2019 at 04:20 PM.


    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?