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    Bane, miasma, and Shadowflare were maintainence buttons in the same way that tank defensive cooldowns are maintainence buttons. Or SMN DoTs. Or any of a dozen hit-on-cooldown (in most cases) damage abilities on dps classes were. The fact of the matter is that they made dealing damage on SCH more engaging than a 1 button spam. It wasn’t perfect, and I would have liked to have seen improvements, but these aren’t improvements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatstand View Post
    Bane, miasma, and Shadowflare were maintainence buttons in the same way that tank defensive cooldowns are maintainence buttons. Or SMN DoTs. Or any of a dozen hit-on-cooldown (in most cases) damage abilities on dps classes were. The fact of the matter is that they made dealing damage on SCH more engaging than a 1 button spam. It wasn’t perfect, and I would have liked to have seen improvements, but these aren’t improvements.
    Let me put it this way. The existence of Bane, Miasma, Shadowflare today would preclude the existence of anything better than that in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    Let me put it this way. The existence of Bane, Miasma, Shadowflare today would preclude the existence of anything better than that in the future.
    I do not see how this is the case. Would you elaborate on why you think this is true?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagomorph View Post
    I do not see how this is the case. Would you elaborate on why you think this is true?
    Because SE has quite obviously stated through action that healers will not get many DPS buttons. So if we do get any DPS actions, I think we all want them to be more interesting than Miasma or Shadowflare. Ideally, involving the fairy gauge.

    We're all so happy that Energy Drain is back because it's an actual decision you can make that has consequences. In my view, if you want rotation based gameplay you play DPS. If you want decision based gameplay, you play healer. I'm just dreaming at this point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wawachume View Post
    Then they really should have put the better stuff in. I'm getting tired of MMORPG developers telling me they've deleted my spells to make room for other stuff they haven't bothered to come up with yet. :/
    They did not tell you that. I did not tell you that.
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    Wawachume Popochume
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    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    Let me put it this way. The existence of Bane, Miasma, Shadowflare today would preclude the existence of anything better than that in the future.
    Then they really should have put the better stuff in. I'm getting tired of MMORPG developers telling me they've deleted my spells to make room for other stuff they haven't bothered to come up with yet. :/
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    Rebecca Prairillot
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    Quote Originally Posted by LariaKirin View Post
    Let me put it this way. The existence of Bane, Miasma, Shadowflare today would preclude the existence of anything better than that in the future.
    but we used to have more than that with them slowly taking away why would getting SOME of our old skills back prevent new things from being made or changed in the future do edrain or hagakure prevent new good things from being made?
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