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    You know... Everyone hated spamming Dark Arts so they changed it... now with Ikishoten we are spamming.... what's the name of that 25 kenki ability? Shinten? Anyway we are spamming that when Senei isn't up. Give Hagakure back and we'll be spamming it even more. I like getting rid of my Sens in between trash pulls and boss jumps but I don't like the idea that it's better to eat your Sens than use a Midare that you have been building up to. You've spent 3 rotations building up Sens, Midare is supposed to be your reward. Instead you want to toss your reward away to spam more Shinten.

    I think we should remove Shoha, and instead of Tsubame Geisha copying w/e Iaijutsu you used it does the Shoha attack animation. Just give a 1800-2000 potency or something and make it lvl 80. Now your not spamming Midare so much, you're still spamming Shinten when Senei isn't up with Ikishoten, and Shoha has been turned into something useful all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    You know... Everyone hated spamming Dark Arts so they changed it... now with Ikishoten we are spamming.... what's the name of that 25 kenki ability? Shinten? Anyway we are spamming that when Senei isn't up. Give Hagakure back and we'll be spamming it even more. I like getting rid of my Sens in between trash pulls and boss jumps but I don't like the idea that it's better to eat your Sens than use a Midare that you have been building up to. You've spent 3 rotations building up Sens, Midare is supposed to be your reward. Instead you want to toss your reward away to spam more Shinten.

    I think we should remove Shoha, and instead of Tsubame Geisha copying w/e Iaijutsu you used it does the Shoha attack animation. Just give a 1800-2000 potency or something and make it lvl 80. Now your not spamming Midare so much, you're still spamming Shinten when Senei isn't up with Ikishoten, and Shoha has been turned into something useful all the time.
    Spamming shinten isn't the same as spamming Dark Arts so pretty moot point. Shinten is more like Fell cleave.

    Shinten just makes samurai more busy and active. I love having stuff to press, makes samurai not seem as slow.
    If people want to be lazy and can't press buttons....Well guess that says a lot and why there are soooo many bad samurai. The lack of shinten usage because they can't press a button like...4 times after each gcd which isn't hard.

    And I don't know about you but using midare so much is pretty boring now. Really only feels good to do the double midare.

    I don't think shoha needs to go away, just have a different requirement.
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    Last edited by xxvaynxx; 08-05-2019 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Spamming shinten isn't the same as spamming Dark Arts so pretty moot point. Shinten is more like Fell cleave.

    Shinten just makes samurai more busy and active. I love having stuff to press, makes samurai not seem as slow.
    If people want to be lazy and can't press buttons....Well guess that says a lot and why there are soooo many bad samurai. The lack of shinten usage because they can't press a button like...4 times after each gcd which isn't hard.

    And I don't know about you but using midare so much is pretty boring now. Really only feels good to do the double midare.
    If Shinten is more like Fell Cleave than perhaps Ikishoten or Hagakura should upgrade Shinten into Shoha when you use them lol. There you go. For each Sen you consume Shoha does more damage. 3 Sens = more damage than 1 Midare. Thus you wouldn't want to use it if Tsubame is up. Shoha fixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    If Shinten is more like Fell Cleave than perhaps Ikishoten or Hagakura should upgrade Shinten into Shoha when you use them lol. There you go. For each Sen you consume Shoha does more damage. 3 Sens = more damage than 1 Midare. Thus you wouldn't want to use it if Tsubame is up. Shoha fixed.
    The animation is a bit too long for something to spam like that honestly. Looks a bit weird.

    Honestly, with ikishoten and the REAL Hagakurae. We wouldn't even need any potency buff since shinten usage will cover that.

    Like I get people like spamming midare because it looks cool but I much rather have the flexibility of 4.x samurai rather than this strict rotation midare spam 5.x samurai.

    If you((not YOU I mean in general)) play samurai in any serious content, you'll know how annoying it is when everything fell out of line because mechanics. Its actually one of the reasons why mnk are beating us.
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    Last edited by xxvaynxx; 08-05-2019 at 05:13 AM.