Proposed Samurai Adjustments/Fixes

[gintokiygo]

You know... Everyone hated spamming Dark Arts so they changed it... now with Ikishoten we are spamming.... what's the name of that 25 kenki ability? Shinten? Anyway we are spamming that when Senei isn't up. Give Hagakure back and we'll be spamming it even more. I like getting rid of my Sens in between trash pulls and boss jumps but I don't like the idea that it's better to eat your Sens than use a Midare that you have been building up to. You've spent 3 rotations building up Sens, Midare is supposed to be your reward. Instead you want to toss your reward away to spam more Shinten.

I think we should remove Shoha, and instead of Tsubame Geisha copying w/e Iaijutsu you used it does the Shoha attack animation. Just give a 1800-2000 potency or something and make it lvl 80. Now your not spamming Midare so much, you're still spamming Shinten when Senei isn't up with Ikishoten, and Shoha has been turned into something useful all the time.

You fail to see the bigger picture in all of this. Original Hagakure's ultimate purpose was reset and realign without causing a damage loss. By being at 20 Kenki per Sen it allowed the rotation to be flexible at any Skillspeed tier. Just in case you weren't aware Samurai at the moment can only play at 2 different Skillspeed tiers before their rotation falls apart 2.13 second GCD and 2.06 second GCD. Currently Samurai has to use Yukikaze overwrites in order to realign itself with it's own rotation and other team member raid buffs if it experiences any amount of downtime or isn't at 2.13 or 2.06 gcd tier. Hagakure isn't taking away the reward at the end it's saving the job from clunky design.

[Burningskull]

You fail to see the bigger picture in all of this. Original Hagakure's ultimate purpose was reset and realign without causing a damage loss. By being at 20 Kenki per Sen it allowed the rotation to be flexible at any Skillspeed tier. Just in case you weren't aware Samurai at the moment can only play at 2 different Skillspeed tiers before their rotation falls apart 2.13 second GCD and 2.06 second GCD. Currently Samurai has to use Yukikaze overwrites in order to realign itself with it's own rotation and other team member raid buffs if it experiences any amount of downtime or isn't at 2.13 or 2.06 gcd tier. Hagakure isn't taking away the reward at the end it's saving the job from clunky design.

Lol You fail to see the post where I said I don't raid outside of ex primals. Which means I can play at w/e skill speed I want cause I don't have to worry about anyone elses buffs. (This wasn't meant to sound hateful btw )

[Eliadil]

Lol You fail to see the post where I said I don't raid outside of ex primals. Which means I can play at w/e skill speed I want cause I don't have to worry about anyone elses buffs.

It's perfectly your right to play that way, and I've met a lot of sam in Stormblood who played the same. And don't get me wrong, this playstyle works fine. You can still clear content by playing like this. I mean, I don't do savage raids often, and tbh I still haven't cleared the newest tier. However is it wrong for me to just want to put out the best I can even when playing easier contents like Alliance Raids or EX Primals ?

I think what makes the others here angry is that you seem to forget that both playstyles were viable in SB. You could choose to not sync with your team and could still clear the content. Or you could play a bit differently, optimize stuff a bit better just to try to put out some more numbers. Because that's what Samurai is about, putting out big dps.

It's the only thing we have going for us and currently I've already seen peoples asking to swap on a monk because it does offer the same things as a Samurai if not more because of its raid utility. And because we don't wanna nerf monk, we're simply asking for a tool to help the players that want to play Samurai in the most optimized way possible in every content.

The issue we currently have right now is that by removing Hagakure, we lost a ton of opportunity to optimize our damage (which isn't that superior to others most of the time too, which is another issue) and playstyle. So yeah, in a sense I completely agree that the changes we're asking for are completely not for you because you don't play samurai like that. But on the other hand, we're not asking for an overhaul of the class or something that will prevent you from playing samurai the way you want.

The issue right now is that Samurai does not play that differently if you play at a casual level or if you wanna put out the biggest dps possible... And most of the time the damage dealt is not that different too while also being not that high when compared to other class. Peoples don't wanna change the current playstyle of the class which you seem to enjoy, we just want the possibility of doing something more while still allowing Samurai to clear content the way you're doing right now. And we're not talking about optimizing gear and stats. Because it simply doesn't feel good to think that "I could only achieve that much damage and fit with the rest of the group just because I... melded materias". I don't know about you, but I'd hate to think that most of our really high level playstyle is just centered around getting the exact amount of SkillSpeed. It doesn't feel like you've played well, you just melded the right thing in the right place, which allowed you to sync with your group.

Hope that helped a bit to understand why most of the players here do not want to keep things like they are